[DeTomaso] NPC - Corporate taxes

Mon Nov 8 11:42:50 EST 2010

Michael,

    I don't think people are quite as bad as you think, they just need a clear picture of what's happening.  It makes no sense, but in California, people vote for liberal candidates, and for conservative ballet initiatives.  When they are given a clear choice, they vote the right way.  In the election last week, Jerry Brown talked like a conservative (lower taxes, less government) and people believed him.  The media is a big part of the problem because they don't jump all over the politicians when they lie so much.  

    Unfortunately, the Republican party blew their chance to make some important changes (like term limiting and tort reform) 10 years ago when they had the house, senate, and white house.  Our only hope may be to hold their feet to the fire this time, and make it clear that we are all going to a third party if they don't do what's right for the country.

Ken

--- On Mon, 11/8/10, michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:

From: michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - Corporate taxes
To: "John Bentley" <gndplne at yahoo.com>
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 8:19 AM

Oh Doug,

Wake Up Buddy......

That will never work because the lazy people, the breeders, the plain stupid
and the uneducated won't agree and their votes count the same as those who
plan ahead, study, work hard/smart and procreate responsibily,

Michael Shortt

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:13 AM, John Bentley <gndplne at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Doug,
> I think we can start to turn things around by abolishing unions and let the
> free market decide what all jobs are paid rather then letting them extort
> higher wages and benefits from their employers.  Pensions are about as
> scalable and realistic as social security.  How about no unions, flat tax
> for everyone, no pensions, and everyone gets a 401k and takes care of
> themselves instead of putting all the burden on the tax payers. :)
> John
>
> --- On Mon, 11/8/10, doug351c <doug351c at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: doug351c <doug351c at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - Corporate taxes
> To: "Larry Finch" <fresnofinches at aol.com>, detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 12:36 AM
>
> Larry,
>
> You can be one of those someone's too by not being envious of the profits
> of
> others.  Obviously, the jobs these corporations provide society are not
> enough blood for you.  You want to bleed the patient until it's dead.  I
> hear liberals complaining at an ever-louder pitch that the rich aren't
> paying their fair share in taxes but the facts tell a different story.
> Keep
> in mind that the people in the top 10 percentile (listed below) are mostly
> small businesses (like our Pantera vendors).  And the majority of the
> people
> on this list lie in the top 25 percentile, otherwise they wouldn't be able
> to afford a Pantera.
>
> For the period from 1986 to 2008:
>
> The top 10% of AGI earners saw their share of all income taxes rise from
> 54.7% to 69.9%.
>
> The top 25% of AGI earners saw their share of all income taxes rise from
> 76.0% to 86.3%.
>
> How high does the percentage share of taxes on the "producers" in our
> society have to go to satisfy you?
>
> BTW: Data is sourced from the IRS.
>
> Doug Braun
> blue 73L #5505
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Larry Finch
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 9:42 PM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC - Corporate taxes
>
> So who wouldn't offshore when it can have big effects  on
>
> your paycheck, even if you know it is not the right thing to do.
> ------------
> Someone with a good character and good morals.
>
> Someone who could look himself in the mirror and like what he sees.
>
> Someone who lives the type of life every religion and code of behavior
> urges
> men to live by.
>
> Someone not corrupted by greed.
>
> And boy does this world need a lot more of those someones.
>
> Larry
>
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