[DeTomaso] Laminova Crown Victoria police Interceptor oil to wateroil cooler.

Tomas Gunnarsson guson at home.se
Sun Jun 6 04:38:21 EDT 2010


Boyd,

I completely scrapped the stock oil lines. The only part I reused was the
part of the stock fitting with the o-rings. I did not use AN fittings or
braided oil lines either. Trying to re-use the stock short oil lines doesn't
make sense to me. In a part like this you want as few joints as possible.

Tomas
  -----Original Message-----
  From: boyd casey [mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com]
  Sent: den 6 juni 2010 01:17
  To: Tomas Gunnarsson
  Cc: De Tomaso List
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Laminova Crown Victoria police Interceptor oil to
wateroil cooler.


  Tomas,
  Do you have or could you take a picture of the stock oil line that you
modified showing the end opposite the stock fitting that attaches to the
Laminovacooler. I believe you said that you had cut the line  and spliced in
an A&N fitting. I would really appreciate it if you could show how you
fabricated this connection. Thanks very much,
  Hugh Boyd Casey


  On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Tomas Gunnarsson <guson at home.se> wrote:

    The question is, what is a "plug"? They list a number of inserts under
    "Parts" where one is a true block off and the rest are restrictors, i.e.
    partial block offs. The more you restrict water flow through the core
center
    the better oil cooling you get. The drawback of more center restriction
is
    reduced water flow. My cooler came with the "Ford" type plug and I kept
it.
    So far I've not seen any engine cooling drawbacks ad I'm pleased with
the
    oil cooling.

    Tomas

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
     Sent: den 5 juni 2010 23:32
     To: jgkrenton at comcast.net; De Tomaso List; Tomas Gunnarsson;
    larry at ohiotimecorp.com
     Cc: doug351c
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Laminova Crown Victoria police Interceptor oil
to
    wateroil cooler.


           Larry,

               You can get some info here:

           http://www.laminova-online.se/

               Go to "oil cooler",  and "C43-332", and  "Detailed Info".
They
    say that plugs are for a flow less than 80 L/min.  This suggests that we
    should cut out the plug.

           Ken

           --- On Sat, 6/5/10, larry at ohiotimecorp.com
<larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
    wrote:


             From: larry at ohiotimecorp.com <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
             Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Laminova Crown Victoria police
Interceptor
    oil to wateroil cooler.
             To: jgkrenton at comcast.net, "De Tomaso List"
    <detomaso at realbig.com>, "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>
             Cc: "doug351c" <doug351c at gmail.com>
             Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010, 11:30 AM


             Guys,

             What I need to know is the water flow direction and the oil in
    line on them.

             Thanks,


             Larry - Cleveland


             On Sat Jun  5 13:05 , "Tomas Gunnarsson"  sent:

             >Jeff,
             >
             >
             >
             >Attached is a detail I cut out of another pic I had. The left
    fitting in the pic has the retaining
             plate fingers bent around it so the plate doesn't come off it
    unless you bend it slightly. The right
             fitting slides into the slot before assembly. As you can see
the
    fittings are free to swivel during
             assembly but will probably remain fixed when the retaining
plate
    is tightened down. I cut the crimped
             sleeves off and reused the fittings with new o-rings and new
crimp
    sleeves when I had new oil lines
             made. I can get better pics of the fittings if you want for
    reference, I still have an old oil line
             around I think.
             >
             >
             >
             >Tomas
             >
             >  -----Original Message-----
             >
             >  From: jgkrenton at comcast.net
    [jgkrenton at comcast.net','','','')">jgkrenton at comcast.net]
             >
             >  Sent: den 5 juni 2010 04:57
             >
             >  To: Tomas Gunnarsson
             >
             >  Cc: De Tomaso List; doug351c
             >
             >  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Laminova Crown Victoria police
    Interceptor oil to wateroil cooler.
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >  Tomas:
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >  Here's a couple of photos of the Laminova's with the
Aeroquip
    type fittings.  I bought 3 of them at
             a swap meet several years ago and they all had the same
fittings.
    I put one on my car, sold one and
             this one is still kicking around the barn..
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >  I don't seem to have a good place to post these photos where
    everyone on the site can see them (I
             know they'll be stripped by this message board.) so maybe you
have
    some easy way to let anyone who
             cares look at them?
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >  As you can see, these fittings made it very easy to put new
    lines/hoses on them....  They come
             apart like any Aeroquip type fitting, and they turn in a swivel
    joint at the hose so you can screw the
             fitting into the casting with a wrench without turning the
hose.
    I kept this one just because I
             thought I might use the fittings on something else one of these
    days...  New fittings would probably
             cost more than I paid for this cooler.
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >  Take care!
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >  Jeff 2467.
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >  ----- Original Message -----
             >
             >  From: "Tomas Gunnarsson" guson at home.se>
             >
             >  To: "De Tomaso List" detomaso at realbig.com>
             >
             >  Sent: Friday, June 4, 2010 2:16:31 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
    Pacific
             >
             >  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Laminova Crown Victoria police
    Interceptor oil to wateroil cooler.
             >
             >
             >
             >  That's nothing like the ones on the handful or so of Ford
oil
    coolers that I've seen. The Ford
             connectors are not swiveling (but can be inserted at any
    rotational position during assembly) and are
             crimp fitted to the oil line.
             >
             >
             >
             >  Tomas
             >
             >    -----Original Message-----
             >
             >    From: jgkrenton at comcast.net
    [jgkrenton at comcast.net','','','')">jgkrenton at comcast.net]
             >
             >    Sent: den 2 juni 2010 03:38
             >
             >    To: boyd casey
             >
             >    Cc: De Tomaso List; Tomas Gunnarsson
             >
             >    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Laminova Crown Victoria police
    Interceptor oil to wateroil cooler.
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >    Most lines come in "kit form".  e.i. you buy the hose, and
    the fittings, and cut the hose to
             length and then
             >
             >    "Screw them together."  Most of the Aeroquip hose fitting,
    like the ones on the Laminova,
             actually screw together (or unscrew to take them apart).  The
    collar is in-fact a big nut.  You take
             the nut, shove the hose in one end of it, then screw the other
    part of the fitting into the other end
             of the nut which forces the hose into some grooves in the
inside
    of the collar.
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >    Here's a pretty good "how to"..
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >    http://www.bakerprecision.com/aqp12a.htm
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >    Jeff
             >
             >    ----- Original Message -----
             >
             >    From: "boyd casey" boyd411 at gmail.com>
             >
             >    To: jgkrenton at comcast.net
             >
             >    Cc: "De Tomaso List" detomaso at realbig.com>, "Tomas
    Gunnarsson" guson at home.se>
             >
             >    Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2010 6:23:56 PM GMT -08:00
US/Canada
    Pacific
             >
             >    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Laminova Crown Victoria police
    Interceptor oil to  wateroil cooler.
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >    Do they make hoses that are suitable for oil lines that
are
    longer that are already equipped with
             an aeroquip fitting?
             >
             >    Boyd
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >    On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:17 PM, jgkrenton at comcast.net>
wrote:
             >
             >
             >
             >      The Ford fitting is in fact a Aeroquip type fitting, it
    comes right apart like any aeroquip
             fitting and you can fit a new aeroquip type hose into the
original
    Ford fitting.  Which is a pretty
             cool rotating fitting. Well worth saving!
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >      FYI
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >      Jeff 2456
             >
             >      Message -----
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >      From: "boyd casey" boyd411 at gmail.com>
             >
             >
             >
             >      To: "Tomas Gunnarsson" guson at home.se>
             >
             >      Cc: "De Tomaso List" detomaso at realbig.com>
             >
             >      Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2010 11:47:44 AM GMT -08:00
    US/Canada Pacific
             >
             >      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Laminova Crown Victoria police
    Interceptor oil to wateroil cooler.
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >      That was my basic concern(using the Ford fittings, and
    adapting new oil
             >
             >      lines to the Ford fittings at the Laminova end , and
    fabricating braided
             >
             >      stainless lines and A&N fittings to attach the oil lines
to
    either a sand
             >
             >      which plate or the remote filter set up I bought. Thanks
    for your feed back.
             >
             >      Boyd
             >
             >
             >
             >      On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Tomas Gunnarsson
    guson at home.se> wrote:
             >
             >
             >
             >      > Boyd,
             >
             >      >
             >
             >      > I used the Ford fittings but not the oil lines. The
    simple reason is that
             >
             >      > they are way too short and the Ford fitting doesn't
fit
    normal sandwich
             >
             >      > adapters anyway. I cut off the sleeves around the Ford
    fittings and had
             >
             >      > them
             >
             >      > installed on my custom length oil lines instead. At
the
    adapter end I had
             >
             >      > non-swiveling threaded fittings crimped on.
             >
             >      >
             >
             >      > Tomas
             >
             >      >
             >
             >      > -----Original Message-----
             >
             >      > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
             >
             >      >
    [detomaso-bounces at realbig.com','','','')">detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]O
n
    Behalf Of boyd casey
             >
             >      > Sent: den 1 juni 2010 18:44
             >
             >      > To: De Tomaso List
             >
             >      > Subject: [DeTomaso] Villanova Crown Victoria police
    Interceptor oil to
             >
             >      > wateroil cooler.
             >
             >      >
             >
             >      >
             >
             >      > Has anyone used the Villanova oil to water oil cooler
on
    their Pantera
             >
             >      > using
             >
             >      > the stock Ford oil line fittings to the Villanova? I
have
    heard of people
             >
             >      > welding the old openings shut and re-drilling and
taping
    for new oil lines
             >
             >      > and various other solutions. I purchased the stock oil
    lines and fittings
             >
             >      > that attach the oil lines to the Villanova  and to the
    engine or oil filter
             >
             >      > side. Is there any reason that I shouldn't use theses
    original oil lines
             >
             >      > (Brand new in the box) to connect the lines to the
    cooler? I was thinking
             >
             >      > of
             >
             >      > using the original design to attach the oil lines to
the
    cooler and
             >
             >      > fabricating a connection to attach the other end of
the
    lines to  my
             >
             >      > sandwich plate or my remote filter set up that I
    purchased and never set
             >
             >      > up.
             >
             >      > Any advice or the benefit of any ones experience would
be
    appreciated.
             >
             >      > Boyd
             >
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