[DeTomaso] cooling system

wdemelo at cogeco.ca wdemelo at cogeco.ca
Mon Jul 19 21:02:09 EDT 2010


>I've read numerous times that an IR gun can be used to test the gauge reading. I have a decent IR gun (3M) and I can't
get a consistant reading. It makes a huge difference in temp reading whether the surface is metal or rubber, shiny or
dull. I use it for comparisons between different areas. Not a chance to get an exact temp reading with my gun.
Will

> Bob,
> I remember the night we went to Coney Island with Ralph I told  you I
> thought your car was running hot (based on your          thermostats
> reading) Considering all the work you have had done and all the money you
> have spent  If it were my car I would start with a brand new set up.
> That includes a water pump ,and a thermostat. This way you know exactly what
> you have. These are relatively inexpensive parts that are responsable for a
> very critical operation of maintaining the proper operating temperature of
> your engine.  A faulty set up  (that can be missed due to an old  or
> inaccurate sending unit or temperature gauge) could result in your engine
> self destructing in a matter of moments if any of the components are faulty
> or fail. For a very insignificant additional investment you can have the
> peace of mind of knowing that your cooling system is set up properly and
> your investment is protected. The fact that your car had one of the "home
> remedies) for fixing overheating problems ( the penny used to block and
> divert coolant is an ill advised home fix for an underlying problem) is
> evidence that 1. there was an underlying problem . 2. There was an attempted
> fix using a technique that is not recommended. 3. Proves that your car no
> longer had a stock set up and the set up that  you do actually have is
> "unknown".
> There is absolutely no question (in my mind) that this is the opportune time
> to set the car up properly. If your going to do something do it right! Don't
> risk your entire car to save a few dollars. You can get a stock water pump (
> part # EN3086 <http://www.precisionproformance.com/en3086.php> ) for $69.99
> at Precision Performance or  A a high performance water pump ( part #
> EN3087<http://www.precisionproformance.com/en3087.php>)
> for $190.00 and  a thermostat is cheap. . With your laser thermometer you
> can check the temp compared to the gauge.  One serious over heating incident
> can destroy your engine..
> You know what to do.
> Hugh
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > It depends on which water pump and thermostat you have.  With a strictly
> > Cleveland pump and thermostat, the plug would block the intended
> > water circulation through the block (but not radiator) during warm up.  But
> > one of the after marker water pumps (Weiand or someone) changes the flow,
> > and I think you may want the blocked ring if you have that pump.
> >
> > You should also make sure you know which thermostat you have, because the
> > Cleveland thermostat works opposite a Windsor thermostat (I think, Jack,
> > others??? LOL).  The pump, thermostat, and blocked or unblocked passage
> > should all be consistent.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > --- On Mon, 7/19/10, LEVITT1946 at aol.com <LEVITT1946 at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: LEVITT1946 at aol.com <LEVITT1946 at aol.com>
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] cooling system
> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 11:22 AM
> >
> >
> > Hello Fellow Pantera Owners,
> >
> > The Gumball Pantera is reaching its final stages of completion. My body
> > shop called today with a question that I could not answer .
> >
> > When I originally upgraded my water pump and thermostat I  noticed a brass
> > ring with a penny soldered into the center of it .I called one  of the
> > vendors out in los angeles and they told me to remove the penny and so I
> > did.
> > Today the body shop called me and told me that the brass ring is not the
> > only water diverter under the thermostat in my car. My question is
> > .....What
> > should be below the thermostat? Only the brass ring without the penny? or
> > should  it be the brass ring and something below the brass ring to divert
> > the
> > water  correctly.
> >
> > Your advise is greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Robert
> > Gumball3000 #56
> > Team Pantera Racing #3196
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