[DeTomaso] - Frog Eyes - was a very long thread that I don'twant to continue

[Kirby Schrader]

David, I couldn't have said it better.
I have the same lights and the lighting improvement was amazing. Even over
the 'Vadar' lights I used to have.

Who's a frog?

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 07:52, David & Marilyn Bell <
davidabell at worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> I installed a set of Kirk Evans cats eye headlights a year ago or so.  The
> materials (Hella light assemblies), workmanship and fit/finish are typical
> Kirk Evans, which means excellent.  The lights went in cleanly though there
> is some cutting on the headlight buckets involved.
>
> Personally, I think the cats eye lights look spectacularly good on a
> Pantera
> and instantly but subtlety modernize it.  I'll have to admit that I'm not
> one of the crowd who likes the frog eye stock look (seriously dated to me).
> As far as performance goes, there are four high-output halogen bulbs
> sitting
> behind nicely focused projector lenses.  The light coverage at night is
> outstanding, MUCH better than the stock pop-ups with halogen bulbs.
>
> I highly recommend Kirk's light kit.
>
>
> Dave Bell (don't call me froggy any more)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:41 AM
> To: wkooiman at earthlink.net; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] - Frog Eyes - was a very long thread that I
> don'twant to continue
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/25/10 19 46 9, wkooiman at earthlink.net writes:
>
>
> > I think Tom did an outstanding job designing the Pantera.  It isn't just
> > another wedge shaped sports car.  It has several unique features that
> make
> > it stand out.  One of those is the frog eye headlights.
> >
>
> >>>Although now it's not that popular, it's important to remember that when
> the Pantera came out, pop-up headlights were considered really, REALLY
> cool.   I recently was reading a retrospective on a number of different
> sports
> cars, written in the mid 1980s, and they still waxed euphoric about how
> neat
> the whole pop-up headlight thing was.
>
> Only 'special' cars of the day had them--Ferrari Daytona, Saab Sonnet III,
> Corvette, Maserati Ghibli, Bora, Merak, etc. etc. etc.   It was a singular
> design element that seemed to be reserved by the industry for cars of that
> nature.   It set them apart from more pedestrian fare such as the Pinto,
> Vega
> etc.
>
> It's interesting to note that a handful of cars retain that design today,
> most notably the Miata--another 'special' car.
>
> The original sealed beam lamps are pretty awful though.   I've got
> super-duper whippy dippy Euro Cibie Z-beam round halogen replacements
> (appropriately
> powered), and I swear I can burn the bark off trees with my high beams.
> The latest generation HID lights like Chris Difani has cooked up, are
> awesome
> too.   The first-gen low-profile rectangular headlights, which used a GM
> low-beam lamp from a Camaro or something, are a little less inspiring.
> They
> throw considerably less light than a big round halogen or HID setup.   I am
> still a bit unsure about the current low-profile round lights that Kirk
> Evans etc. are using now; they are only halogen (not HID), and while they
> certainly look cool, my highly unscientific impression is that they don't
> throw as
> much light as my stock-size halogens.   But unquestionably they're superior
> to the original stock sealed beams.
>
> Regardless of which style you use, I find it's kind of fun to drive the car
> at night and use the headlight buckets themselves as aiming devices--it
> adds to the driving experience and feels really cool.   That's a highly
> subjective thing of course.
>
> There are a few Panteras out there whose pop-up systems have been replaced
> by fixed lights with plexiglass covers.   I guess they work?   I'm not wild
> about them though....
>
> Mike
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