[DeTomaso] speaking of wheels falling off---

Mon Aug 23 18:50:41 EDT 2010

Depends on the Mass of the Brick wall.
If the wall is same mass as car, then yes.
If the wall is more massive than car, then worse.

I hate when massive brick walls drive the wrong way on the Interstate.

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From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Asa Jay Laughton
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 3:12 PM
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] speaking of wheels falling off---

My stirring spoon seems to be stuck in the pot...

So, if a brick wall were traveling at 60 MPH, and you were traveling  
at 60 MPH and had a head on collision, would -that- be a collision at  
120 MPH?

Asa Jay
:)

Quoting Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>:

>
> A car is designed to absorb impact in a crash through a 'crush'   
> zone, what you see in the two car head on are both cars deforming   
> and disipating the force of the impact equally as they are designed   
> to do. On the other hand a brick wall is.... well a brick wall and   
> the single car has to abosrb and disipate all the energy so I would   
> expect the two scenarios to be very similar in resulting damage.
>
> Try propelling two bricks (or rigid objects) at each other at 60 mph  
>  and see if they react the same as a singel brick propelled at the   
> wall.....
>
> Julian
>
>
>> From: wkooiman at earthlink.net
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:16:54 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] speaking of wheels falling off---
>>
>> Slightly off topic, but a head-on collision isn't car1 speed + car2
speed.
>>
>> 60mph car head-on with 60mph car isn't like hitting a wall at 120mph. It
>> was proven very dramatically on myth busters.
>>
>> I believe it's more complicated than that. It's has to do with the total
>> force. Car1 speed * car1 weight + car2 speed * car2 weight = total force.
>>
>> Force applied to car1 = total force/car1 weight.
>> Force applied to car2 = total force/car2 weight.
>>
>> It they're both going 60mph and they're both the same weight, it's just
like
>> they both hit a wall going 60mph. (assuming they head dead-on, glancing
>> blows change everything)
>>
>> If car1 is 3,000 lbs and car2 is 30,000 lbs (big rig), car1 is going to
be
>> much worse than head-on, and the 18-wheeler will have much less damage.
>>
>> I just made up those formulas, but I bet they're correct or at least
close.
>>
>> BTW, the wheel that went through the windshield was probably going
>> effectively 120mph, simply because the windshield wouldn't have slowed
the
>> tire down much at all.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
On
>> Behalf Of boyd casey
>> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 7:11 PM
>> To: Art Stephens
>> Cc: JDeRyke at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] speaking of wheels falling off---
>>
>> I have heard of several incidents where wheels came off of vehicles and
the
>> vehicle that lost the wheel did ok but the errant wheel killed the driver
of
>> the car it hit. This has happened more then once in recent memory. The
one I
>> remember more clearly the wheel cam e off a car on an interstate and
crossed
>> the median. As you know the speed in a head on is car +car b + speed of
>> impact so a car traveling at 60 mph and a loose wheel traveling at 60 mph
>> and bouncing through the windshield and landing smack in someones lap at
120
>> mph effective speed, it's not a pretty picture!. When I was in college
>> (Loyola in New Orleans) I was driving a VW "Super Bug" from my fathers
Ford
>> dealerships used car lot when I noticed a VW wheel Passing me on the
left!
>> The left rear wheel came off and the next thing I knew I was sliding to a
>> stop and the wheel was making great time on it's own! Luckily it didn't
hit
>> anyone. I was always having problems with the cars that I was given to
drive
>> from the cheapest used car inventory. And every time I had a problem I
got
>> downgraded to an even cheaper car until finally I was relegated to the
>> status of pedestrian!
>> Boyd
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Art Stephens
>> <artstephens at verizon.net>wrote:
>>
>> > When I crashed my car, one of the rear wheels with broken upright, half
>> > shaft and disc brake assembly attached, was found days later in a gully
>> > about a quarter mile past the car!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <JDeRyke at aol.com>
>> > To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
>> > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:15 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] speaking of wheels falling off---
>> >
>> >
>> > > I've also had a 'memorable' experience with OTHER PEOPLE'S wheels
>> falling
>> > > off. Commuting to work one morning in N CA in my modified Corvair, a
>> > > cement
>> > > pumper truck on its way to a job site broke a rear axle flange off,
>> > > freeing a
>> > > gigantic 'flotation' tire, wheel & brake drum at 50 mph on the
freeway.
>> > He
>> > > was some ways behind me and I saw the accident in my mirrors, but as
>> race
>> > > announcers say, in heavy traffic 'I had nowhere to go' except to lean
>> > > away.
>> > > The 250-lb assembly bounced off guard rails and hit my drivers door a
>> > > glancing
>> > > blow that knocked the 2500-lb car sideways half a lane, in spite of
the
>> > > traction from the same size tires I run on the Pantera. The wheel
>> finally
>> > > stopped in the median-strip Oleander bushes. Lucky me- I was the only
>> car
>> > > it hit!
>> > > The dent in my car was a foot deep but luckily was confined only to
the
>> > > door.
>> > > A gigantic traffic jam occurred between my banged up car and the
>> concrete
>> > > truck tipped at an angle across 2 lanes. Once he saw I wasn't hurt or
>> > > angry,
>> > > the truck driver (also the business owner!) was very apologetic but
was
>> > > MUCH
>> > > more worried about the full load of concrete he was to have
processed,
>> > > rapidly setting up behind us in a second truck (pre-cell phone days).
2
>> > > hrs
>> > > later I drove the beat up car into work and got no crap about being
>> late.
>> > > His
>> > > business insurance bought me a new door and a full paint job. FWIW- J
>> > > DeRyke
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