[DeTomaso] Brake Conversion Options

Thu Sep 17 20:50:08 EDT 2009

Four calipers. the Brembos are 4 piston and the front have larger pistons
then the rear. Four mounting brackets. Ken told me h is not interested in
selling calipers but he does have a machine shop that makes the mounting
brackets and they are also working on a billet rear carrier that include a
conversion to CV joints. Besides the calipers and brackets you need four
rotors ( the size depends on which calipers you get) I got Porsche 996
calipers which are from a 911 Turbo. With them you can go with a 13.1" rotor
(the front and rear rotors are not exactly the same size but if you were
going to do the conversion I can give you all the relevant sizes  of the
ones I went with. Ken has been very helpful  and there is no way I would
even have attempted this without his help.. You also need four  hats and
should also get a new master cylinder. So
4  Brembo calipers
4 sets of brake pads
4 mounting brackets ( Kens source or you can make your own)
4 Coleman rotors
4 Wilkinson Hats
1 master cylinder
1 proportioning valve ( not a necessity but recommended)

You also need to have wheels that are at least 17" diameter.
It is not a cheap undertaking but it is less then going with Wilwood
calipers and I think the Brembos are a better choice for a number of
reasons. Several vendors offer Brembo  "Big Red" brake conversions and
charge up to $8000.00.
Boyd
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:

> Boyd
>
> This sounds interesting, but what other modifications need to be made to
> the
> Pantera braking system to optimize use of this setup?  My porp valve is
> already gutted, and I have an early 80's GM two-step master cylinder in
> 6328
> already.
>
> Thanks
> Mike Thomas
> Panteras Northwest
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On
> Behalf Of boyd casey
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:21 AM
> To: Julian Kift
> Cc: dfcex at excaliburre.com; De Tomaso List
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Brake Conversion Options
>
>  Ken Green has a Brembo conversion that uses Brembo calipers from a
> Porsche
> 911 Turbo  (996) They are 4 piston and some of the vendors charge between
> $7000 and $8000 for a full conversion. The Brembo's are considered
> supierior
> ( over Willwood) if you use your car for street and track because the have
> dust seals and are made to hold up to extended use by consumers (vs
> mechanics or racers with pit crews) The Willwood or other racing calipers
> are supposed to be serviced much more often due to the lack of dust sheilds
> and seals. You can get  Calipers and custom machined billet mounting
> adapters from Ken and he recomends Coleman rotors and Willwood hats. You
> can
> get the pricing from Ken but I can tell you it's a deal you can't beat and
> you can't argue with Brembo or Porsche. I believe most people go with
> Willwood because new Brembo's cost a fortune. I bought four calipers from
> him and all they needed was a new coat of "Clear coat"" I will send you
> pictures if you would like to see how well they came out. I can also make a
> set of new decals for the calipers for you if you buy calipers from Ken.
> They come with Porsche logos and I can make decals that have the Brembo
> logo
> or , Detomaso, or Pantera. They are heat resistant and after you put them
> one you spray a few coats of heat resistant clear coat. I will make them
> for
> you for free if you cover the cost of the heat resistant decal paper ( a
> few
> bucks) You can do front and rear , he has mounting brackets for both. He is
> also working on a rear brake conversion that has a new custom billet
> carrier
> that uses new better bearings, makes changing the rotors simple and
> converts
> from half shafts to CV joints.  I bought the calipers from him but I
> haven't
> done the conversion yet.
>
> Contact Ken if you are interested or if you want pictures of the refinished
> calipers with the Brembo decals let me know and I will send you pictures.
>
> Boyd.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Julian Kift
> <julian_kift at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> >
> > There are certainly other options to Wilwood, I'm rebuilding my '74
> > with Coleman rotors and Sierra calipers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > > From: dfcex at pacbell.net
> > > To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > > Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:02:30 -0700
> > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Brake Conversion Options
> > >
> >  > I just had the front rotors turned and new pads for The Beast and
> > within 10 laps at Laguna I got a real bad vibration and noticed hot
> > spots on the right front rotor, so I assume it's already been warped
> > again. The steering column shakes so bad on hard braking it feels like
> > it's ready to break loose.
> > > The rotors and calipers are from a 69 Boss 429.
> > > I'll be double checking to make sure the correct pads were used.
> > > Assuming they were I may be next looking for a different set-up, to
> > handle the stopping requirements of track use.
> > > It's been suggested I convert to late model Corvette brakes, has
> > > anyone
> > tried this?
> > > Are there other options, besides the Willwood packages?
> > >
> > > Dan Courtney
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