[DeTomaso] Recap... Asa's adventure in Pantera fluid dynamics

Fri Sep 4 15:00:06 EDT 2009

Thanks. I'd think that one big hole is better than several small of the same combined area. Surface tension can play tricks on you sometimes.

Tomas

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Recap... Asa's adventure in Pantera fluid dynamics

> In the Robertshaw stat, I drilled three holes of about 1/8"  (I'm not  
> home so I can't reference the exact size.
> 
> The Stant stat has one 3/16" hole in it.
> 
> Asa Jay
> 
> Quoting Tomas Gunnarsson <guson at home.se>:
> 
>> What size is the hole?
>>
>> Tomas
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>> From: <asajay at asajay.com>
>> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 7:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Recap... Asa's adventure in Pantera fluid dynamics
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>>
>>> I have a hole drilled in the thermostat so that it does -not- trap air.
>>>
>>> Asa Jay
>>>
>>> Quoting Art Stephens <artstephens at verizon.net>:
>>>
>>>> Asa Jay,
>>>> I was just thinking that if the thermostat is not immersed in water,  it is
>>>> not going to open even though the engine is getting hot,  which would mean
>>>> that the system still had air in it?  It seems like I have been down this
>>>> path before?  I liked what Jack was saying about filling it in   
>>>> several steps
>>>> and shutting down before it gets too hot.
>>>>
>>>> Art
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com>
>>>> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 7:15 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Recap... Asa's adventure in Pantera fluid dynamics
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Geeez, always pointing me to that guy running the club store.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, if the Pantera holds 6½ gallons of coolant, and my system was
>>>>> completely dry, then I -definitely- had an air pocket.  My initial fill,
>>>>> to the point the radiator was full (coming out the bleed at the top) and
>>>>> the swirl tank was full, was three gallons.  I thought this was short,
>>>>> but could not get any more in.  The thermostat had a bleed hole as well,
>>>>> so I figured I need to run it an push some air out.  However, I now
>>>>> believe I introduced a big air lock in it somewhere, possibly at or near
>>>>> the pump and almost definitely in the engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that I've added coolant and manually turned the pump with the heater
>>>>> hose off, I have been able to tell when the impeller was saturated with
>>>>> coolant.  Now it's back to putting the thermostat housing on and
>>>>> attempting to bleed the system again.  This time, paying more attention
>>>>> to what's going on, rather than the excitement of just having the car
>>>>> running after two years.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is probably a lesson in here about filling a dry Pantera with
>>>>> coolant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>>
>>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>>>
>>>>> & Shelley Marie
>>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>>>
>>>>> 1971 Mach I Mustang  [ASA JAY]
>>>>> 1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]
>>>>>
>>>>> ******************************
>>>>> http://www.asajay.com
>>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> MikeLDrew at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>> In a message dated 9/3/09 21 35 44, asajay at asajay.com writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - How many gallons does a typical Pantera take?  (Entire system, engine,
>>>>>>> pipes and radiator, all dry)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe that nugget of information can be found in the original owner's
>>>>>> manual.   To get one of those, contact the POCA club store manager, Asa
>>>>>> Jay
>>>>>> Laughton, at asajay at asajay.com :>) :>) :>)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike (on the road with no original manual at hand to reference--somehow
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> was left out of the digital version of 'the works'?)
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