[DeTomaso] Will's next car...was eBay scam

Mon Oct 19 22:06:55 EDT 2009

EXACTLY what I mean.  Will D. too.

My wife's car is a 2000 Boxster S.  You can buy them in good condition for about $10K.  I drove it to work a couple of weeks ago.  People at work didn't give me too much static, but they thought it was the CFO's car.

512TR maint - I would do it myself.  Most of it is having a place to do the work, going slowly, and being careful.  I always farm out the important stuff - machine work, etc.

Bill - you have too many cars.  You need to leave your Vette with me for a while.

How did this thread get started anyway?

I've thought about buying an exotic that nobody knows.  That way I get to drive a fun car, while also getting to drive it.  Nothing comes to mind, though.

-----Original Message-----
>From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>Sent: Oct 19, 2009 9:30 PM
>To: wkooiman at earthlink.net
>Cc: pantera list <detomaso at realbig.com>
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Will's next car...was eBay scam
>
>512TR 's are cool looking, a tune up and belt change runs 8,000 -12,000
>dollars, unless it has a place to $%&
>I don't see it being worth it.  Get the Vette!
>
>Many years ago I was doing only sales and I used to have a client that made
>a product bought by billionaires and the like, built mostly by avg income
>folks,
>in Savannah, Ga. Back then I had a couple of XKE's, both roadsters, a 64,
>series 1 1/2 and Imperial Maroon 73, Series III V-12 with Ginger Interior, I
>drove it to the plant one day and the Director of Purchasing saw me in it,
>he motioned for me to step into his office later that day and ask me to shut
>the door.
>
>I did.  He told me to NEVER drive that car to the plant again or it would
>cost me business and I never did again.
>
>He didn't mention it again and neither did I. funny how some folks operate,
>they can be surrounded by sheiks, corp raiders, third world dictators and
>other billionaires and just smile and take their money, yet they don't want
>the people "beneath" them to do anything out of the ordinary.
>
>World is strange.
>
>Michael
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:09 PM, <wkooiman at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> What people think...
>>
>> I would love to have a Ferrari Testarossa.  They range from $45K to about
>> $95K.  I'd also love to have a Viper GTS (same price range - the curvy one,
>> not the current body style).  I could afford either one.  I can't drive
>> either to work, though, nor could I let people know I own one.  Why?  It
>> leads to discussions about how I could afford such a car - they probably pay
>> me too much.  I've seen people lose their contract because their car was too
>> expensive (a Porsche Cayman in one case, believe it or not).
>>
>> It really irritates me.  I can finally afford a Ferrari (kids grown, no
>> major bills, etc.), but I can't buy one because I might lose my job, and
>> then I couldn't afford one anymore.
>>
>> That wasn't what I was talking about, though.
>>
>> I don't care what the people on the road think, unless it changes how they
>> act towards me.  I've been honked at, flipped off, cussed, etc. in my wife's
>> Porsche.  I've been cut off, swerved at, flipped off, etc. in the Honda
>> Insight.  I only get thumbs-up in the Pantera - plus some pacing while they
>> take pics.  I don't care what the other drivers think until it changes the
>> way they act.
>>
>> Since I know you're thinking it, I haven't instigated the aggressive
>> behavior.  It's usually just because of the car I was driving.
>>
>> Again - that's not what I was talking about.
>>
>> I'm not worried about what my friends think.  If they think poorly of me
>> because I bought a Corvette, then either
>>
>> a) they weren't my friend, or
>> b) they aren't anymore, so I'm probably better off.
>>
>> That wasn't what I was talking about, though.  What I was talking about is
>> how it makes me feel.
>>
>> I got to drive a 512TR earlier this year.  It wasn't nearly as fast as my
>> Pantera, but my gosh, it felt good.  It felt better than hitting a 300-yard
>> drive on a par-4.  Maybe it's because it was another of my dream cars.
>>  Maybe it was the sound.  I don't know.  All I know, is it made me feel
>> great.
>>
>> My Pantera makes me feel the same way, but it feel unfinished.  There are
>> lots of little things (and several big things) that need to be done to catch
>> up to the 512TR magic feeling.
>>
>> When I start getting serious about buying a Corvette, I get an empty
>> feeling in my gut.  Maybe it was the @holes in my hometown.  Maybe it's
>> something else.  I don't know.  Maybe I need to find a nice Corvette, and
>> just date for a while.
>>
>> And, believe it or not, M.F., you are one of the reasons why I want a
>> Corvette.  I value your opinion.  I hear everything you're saying.  My wife
>> is reason #1 (you're #2 - sorry).  She likes Corvettes.  My neighbor's Z06
>> is reason #3.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
>> >Sent: Oct 19, 2009 7:16 PM
>> >To: boyd casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>, michael frazier <red3644 at hotmail.com>
>> >Cc: Will Kooiman <wkooiman at earthlink.net>, pantera list <
>> detomaso at realbig.com>
>> >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Will's next car...was eBay scam
>> >
>> >Well, That is certainly a post that illuminates my opportunities for
>> >self-improvement.
>> >
>> >John, the Pantera guy, T
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "boyd casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com>
>> >To: "michael frazier" <red3644 at hotmail.com>
>> >Cc: "Will Kooiman" <wkooiman at earthlink.net>; "pantera list"
>> ><detomaso at realbig.com>
>> >Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 11:09 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Will's next car...was eBay scam
>> >
>> >
>> >> Remember , there will always be people who identify other people by
>> their
>> >> possessions. Anyone worth knowing knows that it is the person and his
>> >> ideas
>> >> that is important not his possessions. You will be identified as the
>> >> interesting intelligent guy that happens to own a corvette. Anyone that
>> >> places your owning a corvette a part of the description of who you are
>> as
>> >> a
>> >> man before they list or think of your qualities as a person is not worth
>> >> worrying about. And think how much good you could do for the image of
>> >> Corvette owners everywhere. The three types of people , People who talk
>> >> about ideas (rated #1) people who talk    about other people (rated # 2)
>> >> people who talk about " things" rated # 3. ( truthfully as far as I am
>> >> concerned no 's 2 &3 are interchangeable) " To thine own self be true"
>> if
>> >> you want a corvette  , get a corvette set a precedent and I'm sure you
>> >> will
>> >> find many other corvette owners just like you who have kept a low
>> profile
>> >> because of the actions of a few jerks.
>> >> Boyd
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, michael frazier
>> >> <red3644 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Will Kooiman wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>   I would love  to buy a late model Corvette. They're magnificent cars,
>> >>> and
>> >>> at a great  price.
>> >>>
>> >>> However, there were several people in my home town with Corvettes,  and
>> >>> they were
>> >>>
>> >>> complete @ssholes. I'm tempted to buy a C5 Z06, but I can't  stop
>> >>> thinking
>> >>> about the jerks.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey Will...maybe it was just your home town and everyone was an a$$h01E
>> >>> :)
>> >>>
>> >>>      Don't worry about those guys.  I've been in the Mustang club for
>> >>> over
>> >>> 30 years, president 6 times,
>> >>>
>> >>> and had just about every kind of Mustang I ever wanted.  Today I can
>> say
>> >>> that it is the Mustang
>> >>>
>> >>> community who is the most self-centered and close minded people I meet
>> at
>> >>> events.  The Corvette
>> >>>
>> >>> group I'm with now are much more friendly and outgoing.  So, don't
>> >>> deprive
>> >>> yourself.  If you need a
>> >>>
>> >>> cool Corvette owner image, just think of me.  :)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Michael Frazier
>> >>> Gruppo Rompiculi Corsa ...The new Mustangs are Ricers with V8s.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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