[DeTomaso] Bull Run

Sat Mar 14 18:31:20 EDT 2009

Looking at this show from a money making bussiness propostion, each team
only needs to produce enough drama for one show and then anything after is a
bonus. So heres a hypothetical scenario for you. You cast a team that you
feel will most like have mechanical issues and out of the 12 contestants
feel that this would be the drama they add. Once that team delievers their
"performance" within that role then the've done their job. The producers are
very smart guys and figured out potential scenarios that would play out for
each team they cast into the show.

The other facet of this was you had team Evo who was causing lots of drama
with other teams and team Corvette who with their brual honesty, outspoken
dislike of other teams, and their over the top flair were adding their own
drama to the show. So out of those two teams plus Pantera who just had their
big "drama" moment, who would you send home?

Its just one conspiracy theory thats fun to entertain, but it maybe just us
trying to make it out more then it is :)
We received $50 per/person per diem. That would cover gas and incidentals.
If you damage the car there was discussion of potential help. But to be
honest the production had money flow issues so I doubt there in a position
to help anybody financially. I don't know if they helped dodge or evo. ( but
i doubt it ). The did not assist us any way financially or otherwise.

We got away with what we could on Episode 1 and 2 but yeah in the beginning
we were told that "if you are caught speeding the penalty will be so severe
it will not be worth the time you gain.". They didnt show that on camera.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM, John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>wrote:

>  Jason
>
> We appreciate the inside scoop.
>
> Why did you believe the directors felt "it was your time."  I certainly
> recognize based on your remarks their ability to influence proceedings.  My
> friends who watched the show (non-Pantera owners) were sad to see Team
> Pantera leave as they found you guys to be among the more likeable
> contestants.  :^)
>
> Are the producers providing the contestants funds to cover gas/oil, food
> and lodging?  Will there be any financial bailout for team Evo?  Do they
> subsidize the bodywork and mechanical repairs that the local bodyshop is
> providing to keep the Dart running or fixing the Pantera's throwout bearing
> for that matter?
>
> They seem to keep much of the show's mechanics a mystery.  It wasn't until
> the third episode that we indirectly were made aware of the rule asking the
> teams to obey the speed limits.  I had been wondering why the Silver State
> Pantera Team wasn't playing catch-up at triple digits.  Other reality shows
> appear to be more forthcoming on the financial restraints and rules that
> bind the contestants.
>
> Thanks for the insight
>
> JT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jason Eaton <jason.eaton at gmail.com>
> *To:* John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
> *Cc:* Peter Kovacs <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net> ; detomaso at realbig.com ;
> cuvee at sbcglobal.net
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:03 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Bull Run
>
> Oops I forgot to answer your other question. Nick has never been on a Jet
> ski and being from Masachusettes was severerly adverse to water sports! It
> was a pretty basic slalom course for the Pantera which Nick did well. Just
> the backing up part killed us. Really team Evo had to do the challenge twice
> cause the ran over a bouy the first time. How fair is that. Also team
> Corvette received penalties. Both of those teams were ready to go home they
> thought they did so poorly. All the other contestants said we did the best,
> and so did the production crew.
> The REALITY of it is they produces have lots of levers to pull to persuade
> the outcome. It was our time :)
>
> Mike is putting together a great article for POCA, more info will be in
> there.
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Jason Eaton <jason.eaton at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hey John!
>> It was a plastic fence. You know we were told that the cars would not
>> intentionally damaged except small scratches and minor paint damage. We were
>> also told that you stick to the instructions the cars will be fine but if
>> you screw up the challenge ( like stupid Evo did ) then you can seriously
>> damage the car. We signed our lives away to be on that show including the
>> car.
>>
>> Its not unlike doing track events. If you dont act like a moron your not
>> gonna hurt your car. We ALL knew those big concrete blocks were out there in
>> the grass. We all stood on them in the morning. They are so stupid they
>> didnt notice them, and then thought they would get a better time by going
>> through the fence and not turning? The clock stopped as soon as you ran
>> through the fence. Chris on team Evo was just an idiot!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:46 PM, John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> I also watched the episode last night.  I was astounded that the director
>>> expected the drivers to pilot their cars through a chain link fence.  I was
>>> even more surprised that no one objected.  Had you made it to through that
>>> leg and were placed in that situation, would you have driven the Pantera
>>> through the chain link fence?  Were the participants aware of the
>>> intentional damage the program's directors were exposing the cars to prior
>>> to agreeing to participate?  Based on the Ferrari's drivers initial comment
>>> in the first episode on the potential damage caused by the clear plastic
>>> door strips he had to drive through when exiting the starting point, one
>>> would think not. Their potential damage to his paint job would seem mild in
>>> comparison.
>>>
>>> Also, why did you drive the jet ski and your friend drive the Pantera in
>>> the challenge you faced?
>>>
>>> We appreciate the behind the scenes commentary.
>>>
>>> JT
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Kovacs" <
>>> peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "Jason Eaton" <jason.eaton at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>; <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:37 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Bull Run
>>>
>>>
>>> So Jason,
>>>>
>>>> Were the Evo guys really that bad , worse, or just cool guys acting like
>>>> that or being edited for 'entertainment purposes"? What limitations/rules
>>>> were there that once you were out, did not apply? Dare I ask if the Pantera,
>>>> Porsche, and Ferrari went out intentionally so they did not have to
>>>> potentially drive through a fence?
>>>>
>>>> Peter Kovacs
>>>> Property Equity & Mortgage Mgmt
>>>> 209 345-6708
>>>> 209 523-4919 fx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Jason Eaton <jason.eaton at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Peter Kovacs <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Cc: cuvee at sbcglobal.net; detomaso at realbig.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:31:13 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Bull Run
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was pretty crazy Paul flipping over the Dodge in front of us all as
>>>> he was showboating on the gravel road, but that car was put back together no
>>>> problem. It was all superficial damage. Now Team Evo got what they deserve,
>>>> Karma is a bitch. But to be so stupid as to decide to blow through the gate
>>>> and head straight into that grass ... unbelievable. Those big concrete
>>>> blocks were really obvious.
>>>>
>>>> On that leg, Team Pantera, Team Porsche, and Team Ferrari were doing
>>>> 130mph through Durango! It was a lot of fun and turned into a supercar road
>>>> trip at that point except without the limitations of the show. The best part
>>>> was we go to do a fly by on the other contestants as they tried to stay
>>>> around the speed limit and we buzzed them about 120mph :)
>>>>
>>>> Fun fun fun.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Peter Kovacs <
>>>> peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> He should be happy he got out intact. 2 cars wrecked on tonights
>>>> episode.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peter Kovacs
>>>> Property Equity & Mortgage Mgmt
>>>> 209 345-6708
>>>> 209 523-4919 fx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com; Peter Kovacs <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:21:13 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Bull Run
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As long as Jason and the Pantera are out, who cares!
>>>>
>>>> --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Peter Kovacs <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Peter Kovacs <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Bull Run
>>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>>> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 8:15 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who is going to make the first comments about tonights episode?
>>>>
>>>> Peter Kovacs
>>>> Property Equity & Mortgage Mgmt
>>>> 209 345-6708
>>>> 209 523-4919 fx
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