[DeTomaso] One Pantera not making it to Reno - an idea

[bill gaino]

Mike, Try the retorquing. My head leaked in the same place when cold. I got it warmed up and it went away ..never to return. BUT mine was coolant and not steam.  Bill 1362

-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>Sent: Jun 5, 2009 8:02 AM
>To: 'Mike Thomas' <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, MikeLDrew at aol.com, detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] One Pantera not making it to Reno - an idea
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>Hi Mike,
>
>I know you know this so it is just a reminder. Remember you need to torque
>the head bolts in the proper order. 
>
>Larry - Cleveland
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
>Behalf Of Mike Thomas
>Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:08 PM
>To: 'Mike Thomas'; MikeLDrew at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] One Pantera not making it to Reno - an idea
>
>Thanks to all who have responded.  I'm over my mad now and ready to try
>putting this cranky Eye-talian hybrid bitch back in her place . . . . .
>
>I pulled the plugs on the back four cylinders, two each side, and they all
>look good.  Since the seepage of coolant seems to be coming from the back
>and upper rear corner of the right side head, I am going to start by pulling
>the valve cover and checking the torque on the head.  My builder said it
>should be to 105 ft/lbs.  I tried the one exposed bolt at the back of the
>head and got over a quarter-turn to only 95 lbs: 105 would be even more and
>if the rest require similar tightening, perhaps I'll nip the seepage.  Since
>the plugs look good at this point, does anyone out there see a problem with
>my plan?  'Course I'll pull the left valve cover and do the same to those
>head bolts as well.
>
>Or . . . . is this like a water pump where once the coolant starts leaking,
>it's created a path and you need to change the gasket.
>
>Thanks all!
>Mike -ain't giving up that easy- Thomas
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
>Behalf Of Mike Thomas
>Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:59 PM
>To: MikeLDrew at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] One Pantera not making it to Reno
>
>My builder said I shouldn't have had to worry about retourqueing the heads.
>I'd need to have the face of the head check for true and surfaced, and there
>are no machine shops open on Saturday that I can find.
> 
>I'll be there, but no in the Pantera.
>Mike
>
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>From: MikeLDrew at aol.com [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
>Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:04 PM
>To: mbefthomas at comcast.net; detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] One Pantera not making it to Reno
>
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>In a message dated 6/4/09 15 04 18, mbefthomas at comcast.net writes:
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>This is a fairly new motor with only about 1500-2000 miles on it.  I'm
>assuming I have a bad head gasket, and there is no way I can get this fixed
>in time for the trip.  I simply don't have the knowledge or time at this
>point.
>
>
>
>>>>Nonsense.  You're well-located and have friends with knowledge nearby.
>Go to the auto parts store and buy a set of head gaskets and intake gaskets
>tomorrow; you and your PNW buddies can pull the intake, R&R the head and get
>it all back together in just a few hours.  If the problem is simply a blown
>head gasket, it's really relatively minor.
>
>You say it's a new motor.  Did you re-torque the heads after the first
>hundred miles or so?  If not, you know how this failure happened. :<(
>
>Mike
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