[DeTomaso] Shock recomendations

Tomas Gunnarsson guson at home.se
Sat Jan 10 17:02:16 EST 2009


Remember that front and rear spring/wheel rate are not the same.

Tomas

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Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shock recomendations


> You'll have to decide what spring rates you have now and what rates you want.? You can't just pick numbers that sound good without upsetting the handling balance of your car, as spring rates and sway bar size determine the understeer / oversteer balance.
> 
> When I contacted one of the manufacturers he looked up the spring rates he supplies to the Pantera vendors and the rates were all over the map, mostly too stiff for street use.
> 
> The rates should be proportional to the weight on that end of the car
> 
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JDeRyke at aol.com
> To: ihannington286720mi at comcast.net; detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:24 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shock recomendations
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 1/10/09 10:59:17 AM, ihannington286720mi at comcast.net 
> writes:
> 
>> So my question is, am I better off getting one of the vendors new aluminum 
>> coilovers for a few bucks extra??
>> 
> 1)- Go for new ones. If you stick with Koni's (which I personally like), 
> you'll be getting high-pressure gas-shocks that still have single adjustment 
> capabilities like your old ones, and will allow you to balance the chassis by 
> changing corner loads with adjustable spring platforms. And they drop a 
> significant 
> amount of weight per shock, are physically smaller and thus mount the rears 
> further away from the exhaust pipes so heat doesn't affect the damping. See the 
> POCA Newsletter article Aug 07 on the advantages of adding gas-Konis to a 
> street Pantera.
> 2)-Aluminum-body shocks save an additional 3/4 lb per shock for $100 or so 
> extra per shock. Dual-adjustment shocks are more $$$ besides, and allow you to 
> become thoroughly confused from the number of choices.... IMHO, most street 
> cars never get readjusted once a reasonably good setting is found. So the 
> external damping adjustments are usually only a potential source of leaks.
> 3)- all the vendors sell shock packages that will work, but only D. Quella 
> sells Konis. IMHO, he almost always include racing spring packages that are too 
> stiff for the street; something to check before ordering. To help defray your 
> costs, Pat Michael at Future Auto in MA sometimes buys old style orange Konis 
> and black Aristons. 
> 4)- Buy a real shock spanner to adjust ride height rather than mauling the 
> aluminum adjusting nuts with screwdrivers and hammers.
> Good luck- J Deryke
> 
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