[DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?

Tue Aug 4 15:13:18 EDT 2009

Yes...sideways (transverse).  The color choices are driving me absolutely craaazy.

Michael

> From: larry at ohiotimecorp.com
> To: red3644 at hotmail.com; kirby.schrader at gmail.com
> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?
> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:52:41 -0400
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Were you thinking of installing it on the front hood?
> 
> Larry (Bling-mi-ster) - Cleveland
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of michael frazier
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:29 AM
> To: Kirby Schrader
> Cc: pantera list
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?
> 
> 
> I still say this will meet the REAL needs of most people wanting an IR-EFI
> unit on their Pantera. 
> 
> http://www.alsblowers.com/streetinduction.html
> 
> Michael
> 
> Gruppo Rompiculi Covetto
> 
> > Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:32:27 -0500
> > From: kirby.schrader at gmail.com
> > To: kenn_green at yahoo.com
> > CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?
> > 
> > Fair enough.... but you change the heads and the headers have to change
> also.
> > :-)
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Ken Green<kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Kirby,
> > >
> > > I was just thinking that if you're spending $5K on an EFI system,
> > > another $2,500 for heads made sense, and that in particular, if you
> spend
> > > more like $7,500 for a cross ram EFI, the heads make a lot of sense
> because
> > > you can't use the manifold made for 4V heads on high port heads if you
> want
> > > to go that way later.
> > >
> > > I'm a little surprised that there aren't more Panteras with tunnel
> ram
> > > based EFIs running around. That seems like a lot of bang for the buck
> and I
> > > think fits under the engine cover, but not the very cool appearance of
> the
> > > IR system.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?
> > > To: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: "Detomaso forum" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 4:17 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually, I put IR EFI on my Pantera with 4V iron heads back in 2000
> > > and I'm quite impressed with it.
> > > The setup gave the car a lot more low and mid range power. I got a
> > > pretty good deal on it and would not have been able to afford all the
> > > changes required for the high port heads (new headers required, etc.
> > > etc.)
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm easily impressed?
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > MD and I both got our manifolds from Kelly. I'm sure Kelly will make
> > > more if required, but they ain't cheap.
> > > Don Franck has a similar setup on his iron 4V heads as well.
> > >
> > > Yes, Don. I'm back from Kansas. Let's talk about tuning.
> > >
> > > FWIW,
> > > Kirby
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4 Aug 2009, at 12:37 AM, Ken Green wrote:
> > >
> > >> I think Mike used a very limited availability Kelly Coefield (SP?)
> > >> EFI manifold made for high port SVO heads. It may have been a one
> > >> shot deal, but you'd have to ask Kelly.
> > >>
> > >> But I do think they had the right idea. Why spend all the $s for an
> > >> IR EFI for 4V heads? Seems to make a lot more sense to upgrade to
> > >> aluminum high ports heads if you are spending that kind of money.
> > >>
> > >> Ken
> > >>
> > >> --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> > >> Subject: [DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?
> > >> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > >> Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 7:23 PM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Taking a cue from the Mad Dog school of barking, why in the world are
> > >> you guys messing around slackin' your jaws about which EFI is the
> > >> best,
> > >> when there is a race-proven, screamin' killer EFI made by one of our
> > >> own. Mike Trusty. Now if it's the bling your looking for, fine,
> > >> spend
> > >> five grand on a system that looks cool but won't mow the lawn. For
> > >> real
> > >> performance, personalized service, tuning tips, blah, blah, blah....
> > >> look no further than Mike.
> > >>
> > >> You want to see what it looks like? Go here:
> > >>
> > >>
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&
> Itemid=57&g2_itemId=1200
> > >>
> > >> You want to hear it run, you want to see it run? Go here:
> > >> http://www.teampanteraracing.com/Images/The%20Injectors2.mov
> > >>
> > >> Mike has built EFI systems for Dennis (aka Mad Dog) Antenucci, Kirby
> > >> Schrader, other GT40 owners, Lambo's Ferrari's Jag's, etc. He's a
> > >> mechanical engineer -and- a racer. He just did some time at Road
> > >> America with his GT40. (Photos on TPR later). This is a GO-TO guy
> > >> for
> > >> IR-EFI.
> > >>
> > >> Yea, I like the looks of a nice cross-ram setup, mate it with the
> > >> right
> > >> air boxes and it would look really cool. But we don't have a lot of
> > >> data on them. Mike's system, we do. And he's not that far away, can
> > >> probably give you a good idea of what you'd need for your particular
> > >> application. Give him a shout, miketrusty at msn dot com.
> > >>
> > >> It doesn't hurt to ask.
> > >> Asa Jay
> > >>
> > >> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> > >>
> > >> & Shelley Marie
> > >> Spokane, WA
> > >>
> > >> 1971 Mach I Mustang [ASA JAY]
> > >> 1973 Pantera L 5533 [ASASCAT]
> > >>
> > >> ******************************
> > >> http://www.asajay.com
> > >> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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