[DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?

Tue Aug 4 15:29:40 EDT 2009

.... and then you could put a big red "R" on the fenders, and a coffee  
can on the back for an exhaust tip.  :)  If you want that real racer  
look though, you'll need one of those Fisher-Price rear spoilers.

Asa Jay

Quoting michael frazier <red3644 at hotmail.com>:

>
> Yes...sideways (transverse).  The color choices are driving me   
> absolutely craaazy.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>> From: larry at ohiotimecorp.com
>> To: red3644 at hotmail.com; kirby.schrader at gmail.com
>> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?
>> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:52:41 -0400
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> Were you thinking of installing it on the front hood?
>>
>> Larry (Bling-mi-ster) - Cleveland
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
>> Behalf Of michael frazier
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:29 AM
>> To: Kirby Schrader
>> Cc: pantera list
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?
>>
>>
>> I still say this will meet the REAL needs of most people wanting an IR-EFI
>> unit on their Pantera.
>>
>> http://www.alsblowers.com/streetinduction.html
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> Gruppo Rompiculi Covetto
>>
>> > Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:32:27 -0500
>> > From: kirby.schrader at gmail.com
>> > To: kenn_green at yahoo.com
>> > CC: detomaso at realbig.com
>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?
>> >
>> > Fair enough.... but you change the heads and the headers have to change
>> also.
>> > :-)
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Ken Green<kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > > Kirby,
>> > >
>> > > I was just thinking that if you're spending $5K on an EFI system,
>> > > another $2,500 for heads made sense, and that in particular, if you
>> spend
>> > > more like $7,500 for a cross ram EFI, the heads make a lot of sense
>> because
>> > > you can't use the manifold made for 4V heads on high port heads if you
>> want
>> > > to go that way later.
>> > >
>> > > I'm a little surprised that there aren't more Panteras with tunnel
>> ram
>> > > based EFIs running around. That seems like a lot of bang for the buck
>> and I
>> > > think fits under the engine cover, but not the very cool appearance of
>> the
>> > > IR system.
>> > >
>> > > Ken
>> > >
>> > > --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > From: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
>> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?
>> > > To: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>> > > Cc: "Detomaso forum" <detomaso at realbig.com>
>> > > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 4:17 AM
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Actually, I put IR EFI on my Pantera with 4V iron heads back in 2000
>> > > and I'm quite impressed with it.
>> > > The setup gave the car a lot more low and mid range power. I got a
>> > > pretty good deal on it and would not have been able to afford all the
>> > > changes required for the high port heads (new headers required, etc.
>> > > etc.)
>> > >
>> > > Maybe I'm easily impressed?
>> > > :-)
>> > >
>> > > MD and I both got our manifolds from Kelly. I'm sure Kelly will make
>> > > more if required, but they ain't cheap.
>> > > Don Franck has a similar setup on his iron 4V heads as well.
>> > >
>> > > Yes, Don. I'm back from Kansas. Let's talk about tuning.
>> > >
>> > > FWIW,
>> > > Kirby
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 4 Aug 2009, at 12:37 AM, Ken Green wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I think Mike used a very limited availability Kelly Coefield (SP?)
>> > >> EFI manifold made for high port SVO heads. It may have been a one
>> > >> shot deal, but you'd have to ask Kelly.
>> > >>
>> > >> But I do think they had the right idea. Why spend all the $s for an
>> > >> IR EFI for 4V heads? Seems to make a lot more sense to upgrade to
>> > >> aluminum high ports heads if you are spending that kind of money.
>> > >>
>> > >> Ken
>> > >>
>> > >> --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
>> > >> Subject: [DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?
>> > >> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> > >> Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 7:23 PM
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Taking a cue from the Mad Dog school of barking, why in the world are
>> > >> you guys messing around slackin' your jaws about which EFI is the
>> > >> best,
>> > >> when there is a race-proven, screamin' killer EFI made by one of our
>> > >> own. Mike Trusty. Now if it's the bling your looking for, fine,
>> > >> spend
>> > >> five grand on a system that looks cool but won't mow the lawn. For
>> > >> real
>> > >> performance, personalized service, tuning tips, blah, blah, blah....
>> > >> look no further than Mike.
>> > >>
>> > >> You want to see what it looks like? Go here:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&
>> Itemid=57&g2_itemId=1200
>> > >>
>> > >> You want to hear it run, you want to see it run? Go here:
>> > >> http://www.teampanteraracing.com/Images/The%20Injectors2.mov
>> > >>
>> > >> Mike has built EFI systems for Dennis (aka Mad Dog) Antenucci, Kirby
>> > >> Schrader, other GT40 owners, Lambo's Ferrari's Jag's, etc. He's a
>> > >> mechanical engineer -and- a racer. He just did some time at Road
>> > >> America with his GT40. (Photos on TPR later). This is a GO-TO guy
>> > >> for
>> > >> IR-EFI.
>> > >>
>> > >> Yea, I like the looks of a nice cross-ram setup, mate it with the
>> > >> right
>> > >> air boxes and it would look really cool. But we don't have a lot of
>> > >> data on them. Mike's system, we do. And he's not that far away, can
>> > >> probably give you a good idea of what you'd need for your particular
>> > >> application. Give him a shout, miketrusty at msn dot com.
>> > >>
>> > >> It doesn't hurt to ask.
>> > >> Asa Jay
>> > >>
>> > >> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> > >>
>> > >> & Shelley Marie
>> > >> Spokane, WA
>> > >>
>> > >> 1971 Mach I Mustang [ASA JAY]
>> > >> 1973 Pantera L 5533 [ASASCAT]
>> > >>
>> > >> ******************************
>> > >> http://www.asajay.com
>> > >> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
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