[DeTomaso] ls engines

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They beat them first with a 289 in 1964...Cobra Daytona coupe 2299 at Le Mans. And outright, with the 427.

I don't think Ferrari was going for "refinement" as their only goal. An OHC V12 is their tradition and that's what they stuck with, God bless that mentality.

If Ford would've done that, we could have an all aluminum 289 HiPo with 6 bolt mains, a dry sump all attached to a T-56. That makes me want to pull my pants down.

LS




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From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
To: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>; Perry Herndon <perryherndon at gmail.com>
Cc: Justin Greisberg <justingreisberg at hotmail.com>; detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 6:04:59 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ls engines


Thinking back to the 60, didn't Ford finally beat Ferrari with a pushrod 427 and 4 speed?  And didn't Ferrari eventually get the rules changed so they could be competitive with their "refined" engines?

Ken



--- On Tue, 12/16/08, Perry Herndon <perryherndon at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Perry Herndon <perryherndon at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ls engines
To: "LS" <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Justin Greisberg" <justingreisberg at hotmail.com>, detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 11:16 AM


But pushrods lack "refinement" and numerous other unquantifiable feel
good
terms that people like to throw around as justification for undue complexity
and having paid too much for their cars.

http://www.erareplicas.com/427/engpro.htm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/arthurdent/4.jpg


On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:56 PM, LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I currently have three Ford V8s, two HiPo 289s and a Teksid 4.6 DOHC.
>
> I also have a Mallett CTS-V with a 427 C5R motor handbuilt by their team.
>
> It is ridiculous...570 emissions legal bhp and 25mpg. The engine is half
> the size of anything similar today and is very strong.
>
> What is this "LS" engine? It's the best out there according
to crew teams
> and race engineers due to its power/size/efficiency relationship.
>
> Eight wins at Le Mans and counting...
>
> LS (pssst, I love Ford V8s!)
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Justin Greisberg <justingreisberg at hotmail.com>
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Monday, December 8, 2008 9:28:50 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] ls engines
>
>
> As someone who has owned cars with an LS6, LS1, and LS7 engine, I have to
> say that there is more to these engines than packaging.  There are
> phenomenal engines, with phenomenal heads and fantastic performance.
> Although I love my clevelands and windsors, the LS engines are a league
> above them in capability, and the cost of building one of these compares
> favorably with the money I am putting into my aluminum-headed, iron block
> cleveland.  And I believe the same is true when comparing to the old 350
> chevys.
>
> Sorry for the rant, but I think we must give credit to GM for the best
> thing they have done in the last 20 years.  There is no other auto
> manufacturer that makes a V8 that is this good anymore.  I would rather
see
> one of these in a pantera than ford's ridiculous modular motor.
>
> Justin (still love all of you, even when discussing chevy engines)
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