[DeTomaso] FW: I hate being technically incompetent-stalling issue

Thu Dec 4 20:53:18 EST 2008

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From: boyd casey [mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 5:51 PM
To: msm at portata.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] I hate being technically incompetent-stalling issue

I had a similar problem. I also have an MSD ignition set up. First check fuel delivery. If your car has debris in the gas tank it will sometimes pick up crap from the  tank ( usually after letting it get low or right after a fill up ( stirred up debris ) Anyway teh scenario supposedly works like this. Fuel pick up gets clogged car stalls, Time goes by debris drops back out of fuel pick up and settles to bottom of tank, car restarts. I Just replaced my see through in line fuel filter and you would not believe the crap that  came out. It was like silt. I replaced it with a Fram racing filter that also acts as a water separator. If that fails MSD ignitions are supposed to have the hot lead from the MSD module hook up directly to the positive terminal of the battery. A loose or bad connection can cause intermittent ignition which will also cause similar symptoms. next time your car stalls pull of the air cleaner and see if you are actually getting gas. If you have a carb you will actually see gas squirt when you pump the accelerator ( have some one do it , or move the throttle by hand. If you are getting gas  pull a spark plug and have some one crank the car and see if you are getting spark. If you are not getting spark you can bring your MSD module and coil to a speed shop that sells MSD. Many of them have a sales display that will test your module and coil . It used to show how much more spark you get from MSD then other brands. Good Luck!

Boyd
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:11 PM, <msm at portata.com> wrote:
>> I hate being technically incompetent
Me too.  But, you get used to it. :->

The fuel filter replacement is an easy, low-cost fix, so there is not
much downside to just do it.  Mike will pop up here shortly to talk
about his bling-bling reusable filter, but a few bucks down at your
local parts store is all you need.

It's amazing what you can find when you cut open a filter, even a fairly
new one.

Been there, done it -- twice.

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
On Behalf Of John Taphorn
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 4:58 PM
To: Kerry Maguire; michael at michaelshortt.com
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] I hate being technically incompetent-stalling
issue

I agree with the fuel filter diagnosis

JT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerry Maguire" <kmaguire at landrovermiramar.com>
To: <michael at michaelshortt.com>
Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] I hate being technically incompetent-stalling
issue

> The car had the symptoms of running out of gas. When I was rolling
about
> 30 MPH and the car stalled, I would let out the clutch, it would fire
> right up, and then run normally for a short distance. Sometimes it
would
> not and I just had to pull over to the side of the road.
>
> The car turned over strongly when I was stopped, but sometimes sounded
as
> though only one cylinder would try to fire up when the engine turned
over.
> Then, about a half hour later, the car would start right up an run
> normally and I was able to drive it home.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kerry
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> From: michaelsavga at gmail.com on behalf of michael at michaelshortt.com
> Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 8:39 AM
> To: Kerry Maguire
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] I hate being technically incompetent-stalling
> issue
>
>
> When you sat stalled, can you explain, all at once, like it was out of

> gas, did the starter turn over.
>
> Fuel filter clogged.
> Fuel pick up clogged
> Bad Coil.
> Loose wire in the ignition system.
>
> If the MSD box was bad, they don't fix themselves in my experience,
they
> just stop all at once.
> Same with the dist.
>
> Michael in Savannah
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Kerry Maguire
> <kmaguire at landrovermiramar.com> wrote:
>
>
> Over the last week, my Cat has developed a stalling problem. On
> Thanksgiving Day, I gave 3 family members a nice spirited ride and
> everything went well until passenger #4 climbed into the passenger
seat.
>
> We drove only about one mile and the car stalled and quit running. For

> some reason, after about 1/2 hour, the car fired right up, drove
normally,
> and I drove it home and parked it in the garage.
>
> Today the Cat fired right up and drove well for about 4 miles and then

> stalled again.
>
> I had the car flat bedded to a SD Pantera Club member's house for him
to
> take a look at it. He is speculating that there might be something
wrong
> with the ignition system. BTW, it has the MSD ignition system.
>
> Any input from fellow members would be greatly appreciated as my
mechanic
> does not frequent the internet much.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kerry
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