[DeTomaso] Jay Lenos E85 powered Vette

[Peter Kovacs]

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----- Original Message ----
From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
To: Tomas Gunnarsson <guson at home.se>; Dave Doddek <pantera at pobox.com>; detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:38:11 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jay Lenos E85 powered Vette

Thanks, now it makes sense.  How did the 10% alcohol get into the discussion?  
  
  Ken

Tomas Gunnarsson <guson at home.se> wrote:
  Ken,

85% alcohol gives you 105, 10% doesn't.

Tomas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Green" 
To: "Dave Doddek" 
; 
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:53 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jay Lenos E85 powered Vette


> Dave,
> 
> Maybe I missed it, but why does 10% alcohol make such a big difference in octain? Actually, I think most aftermarket ECUs can save more than 1 program, so you could have a separate program for E85.
> 
> But this all sound to simple. If all you have to do is add 10% alcohol to get 105 octain, whay does anyone run race gas?
> 
> How does this compare to the people running a 50% alcohol mix in their water injection? If the ECU can determine when you're approaching detination and turn on the water/acohol injection to an appropriate level, does it do the same thing for octain as running E85? seems a lot easier. 
> 
> Ken
> 
> Dave Doddek 
wrote:
> Yes, you could run E85 in the pantera. You will have to make sure that the
> fuel system is compatible with alcohol. There is a guy with a Grand
> National here that runs E85 on a daily basis. He says it runs great and he
> gets tons more HP. He did have to recalibrate the Computer.
> 
> And Jack, Sorry to say, that 10% ethanol does not change the operation of
> the engine at all. We have had 10% ethanol in gas here in Illinois for
> over 20 years. We also have gas without Ethanol. Running it in anything
> from lawn mowers to cars makes no difference at all. We have been doing it
> for 25 years.
> 
> Dave "Race gas at the pump, oh yea" D
> 
> At 04:18 PM 10/30/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>>hi dave...are you saying you can use e85 for the pantera??...or just that
>>you have one close by that you use with some other vehicle? - thanks!!
> stephen
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
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>>To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 11:27:51 PM
>>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jay Lenos E85 powered Vette
>>
>> At 105
>> With
>> 1000HP here I come.
>>
>>Dave "Race gas at the pump again" D
>>
>>At 01:29 PM 10/29/2007 -0800, you wrote:
>>> I wonder what it would take to turn a 351C into an E85 screamer?
>>>
>>>Question is, where do I guy E85?
>>>
>>>Asa Jay
>>>
>>>:
>>>
>>>> Check out Jay Lenos new Vette:
>>>>
>>>>
>>http://jalopnik.com/cars/sema/sema-2007-jay-lenos-600-hp-e85+powered-corvett
>>e-c6rs-revealed-before-sema-debut-316031.php
>>>>
>>>> --michael cox
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