[DeTomaso] ORR TIRES - was; Re: What a great car!

[Mad Dog Antenucci]

Firefighter and General Ball Buster,
   
  Of course I am correct. Why are you driving BFG Y (186 mph) rated radial tires?  I'll tell you why. 
   
  Its because you have been to Silver State before, you've done your homework and you eventually plan to go faster then 124MPH ;-]>  And you also want the best high speed radial tires under your backside, right?   
   
  Erik Petterson the head tech at Silver State last year agreed that the age requirement is not an issue in the Touring and Grand Touring (140 top speed) divisions....even in the fastest divisions he is now willing to waive the age requirement. 
   
  Eric also agreed that the old H or U rated tires for Pantera or Mangusta guys running on original 15" Campy rims in a Pantera in the Touring division is okay assuming they are not beat up, have flat spots from tracking or any noticable sidewall cracking. Again we had not tire tech issues in 2007 and I don't expect any in 2008.
   
  There are a total of 8-9 ORR's with 4 sanctioning bodies....Silver State's tire tech rules are the toughtest but it is the fastest orr road. look at this way.....Michael Frazier only drives 107 MPH in ORR but he still has Y (186 mph) high speed radials.
   
  md
  
Art Stephens <artstephens at charter.net> wrote:
  Dawg,
It appears that you are not entirely correct. :-)) The Touring 
division only requires "U" rated tires (124 mph). The grand touring 
division only requires "V" rated tires, which allow a tech speed of 140 
mph. Beginning with the grand sport division, "tires should not be more 
than two years old". I don't see an age restriction for tires in the 
touring and grand touring divisions?

Art



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mad Dog Antenucci" 
To: ; ; 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What a great car!


> Mikey-Mikey-Mikey,
>
> You can just say you are just too skeered to run fast or just too cheap 
> to buy modern wheels and tires or admit to both but stop the 
> misinformation on orr tires. Some of these guys are going to believe your 
> BS.
>
> To say people need tires that are no older then 15 minutes old or tires 
> that are speed rated for a billion miles per hour is incorrect 
> Mikey....even you know that.
>
> All anyone has to do to 'legally run ORR at speed on a closed road with a 
> Pantea " is show up at tech with treaded high speed (Z, Y or W rated dot 
> tires like Goodyear, Michelin and BFG, etc) that are less then 3 years 
> old, are in good condition.
>
> If anyone isn't sure about what tires will work and will pass tech then 
> all they need to do is ask Pantera ORR veterans like John Bentley, Jason 
> Eaton, Michael Frazier, Tom Di Iulio, Durango Dave, Bob Benson, David 
> Bell, JT or any of the other veterans who still run their Panteras in 
> ORR. Yeeees, Jason and Dan Courtney had trouble teching Hoosier race tires 
> in the past. No problems in 2007 with tire tech at any of the ORR.s
>
> Keep up the good work. We're all behind you.
>
> Dawg
>
> P.S. Have fun driving the Pantera but don't take out any civilians in 
> Norcal while you are playing Ricky Racer on public roads. ;-]>
>
> MikeLDrew at aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 11/13/07 7 15 28, asajay at asajay.com writes:
>
>
>>
>> You're gonna put Silver State on your list of to-dos for next year, 
>> right?
>>
>
> The too-soft suspension would probably need to be addressed. But until the
> tire tech folks get real and stop insisting on tires that are less than 15
> minutes old, and speed-rated for a billion miles an hour, I'll be driving 
> my
> Pantera on the roads, and racetracks up and down California, but not the 
> deserts
> of Nevada....
>
> Mike
>
>
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