[DeTomaso] Volvo 240 Brake Calipers

[tony DiGiovanna]

Ah yes, Europe.  The forgotten continent.  :)

How's that for ugly American?

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Tomas Gunnarsson [mailto:guson at home.se]
Sent:	Sunday, February 25, 2007 5:06 AM
To:	tony DiGiovanna; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject:	Re: [DeTomaso] Volvo 240 Brake Calipers

Tony,

It depends on where you're located in the world and what purpose you have
with your car. In Europe Wilwood and other race calipers are not a practical
option for cost reasons and the lack of piston dust seals. Replacing caliper
seals are not that big a deal but if you have rusted pistons the rebuild
cost quickly gets higher than the cost of buying these Volvo calipers
(around 100 USD each). In Europe I'm only aware of 1 (one) pad manufacturer,
EBC, that supplies pads for the stock front calipers. There are "countless"
suppliers for the Volvo calipers and they usually offer more than one pad
material. For a street driven car the solid rotors will do OK and the stock
brake pads will be the weakest link. Most people over here who upgrade to
aftermarket parts keep the old parts as backup or for originality reasons so
the market for used calipers is very small.

To sum it up, this is not a performance upgrade, it's a bolt on replacement
that is readily available at a very good price. If you were happy with the
stock brake calipers this will be an interesting alternative to rebuilding
the stock calipers.

Tomas

----- Original Message -----
From: "tony DiGiovanna" <tonydigi at optonline.net>
To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: den 25 februari 2007 01:12
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Volvo 240 Brake Calipers


> I don't get the point of this.
> No improvement over stock caliper.
> Stock calipers are plentiful, just ask the hundreds of guys converted to
> Willwoods.
> The stock caliper is easily rebuilt and rather robust to do so.
> Racing pads easy to get for stock caliper.
> Stock rotor not well suited to race conditions anyway.
> What am I missing?
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On Behalf Of Larry - Ohio Time Corp.
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 5:50 PM
> To: Tomas Gunnarsson; Garth Rodericks; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Volvo 240 Brake Calipers
>
> Tomas
>
> Is it my old eyes or does this rotor look very think?
>
> http://www.detomaso.nu/bilder/Slask/pantera%20034bromskomp.JPG
>
> I thought my car was the only one that looked like that on the under side.
>
> Larry (Mr. Rusty) - Cleveland
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>
> To: "Garth Rodericks" <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 5:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Volvo 240 Brake Calipers
>
>
> > Garth,
> >
> > I'm sure Per who posted to the board doesn't mind if I share the pics
with
> > you.
> >
> > http://www.detomaso.nu/bilder/Slask/pantera%20033bromskomp.JPG
> > http://www.detomaso.nu/bilder/Slask/pantera%20034bromskomp.JPG
> > http://www.detomaso.nu/bilder/Slask/pantera%20035bromskomp.JPG
> >
> > I haven't tried it myself but I saw a car so equipped in August last
year
> > and now Per has repeated the swap. I think the piston area is a bit
> > smaller than stock but it didn't seem to be noticeable to the owner I
met
> > in August. Here in Europe you can get performance brake pads from all
the
> > major brake pad manufacturers (marketed over here that is) for these
> > calipers.
> >
> > Tomas
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Garth Rodericks" <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> > To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Sent: den 23 februari 2007 22:49
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Volvo 240 Brake Calipers
> >
> >
> >> Interesting post from the PIBB
> >>
> >>
http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/4040076674/r/#
> >>
> >>   Suggests Volvo 240 (91-92) brake calipers as an inexpensive
alternative
> >> to the Pantera calipers. And, they have an ample supply of racing pads
> >> available.
> >>
> >>   Cheers!
> >>   Garth
> >>
> >>
> >>
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