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Another email list test
by Daniel C Jones 21 Mar '25

21 Mar '25

So back on 27 February I sent a test to the list that others on the list received and replied to me (off the list). Since then, I have not seen a single DeTomaso list email. I've attempted to unsubscribe and resubscribe. This is another test to see if the list is working (for me). Thanks, Dan Jones So back on 27 February I sent a test to the list that others on the list received and replied to me (off the list). Since then, I have not seen a single DeTomaso list email. I've attempted to unsubscribe and resubscribe. This is another test to see if the list is working (for me). Thanks, Dan Jones

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Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 249, Issue 38
by david.hofman＠cox.net 20 Mar '25

20 Mar '25

Had this been an actual issue, you would NOT have had time to react. LOL -----Original Message----- From: detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com <detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2025 3:09 PM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 249, Issue 38 Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: Another email list test (Richard Greenblum) 2. Re: Removing Clutch master cylinder issue-Help! (Panteratime) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 15:30:52 -0500 From: "Richard Greenblum" <Richard(a)richardgreenblum.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Another email list test To: "'Daniel C Jones'" <daniel.c.jones2(a)gmail.com>, "'detomaso'" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Message-ID: <003a01db99d6$fa6a4080$ef3ec180$(a)richardgreenblum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Test message received. Richard Austin, TX -----Original Message----- From: Daniel C Jones <daniel.c.jones2(a)gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2025 3:03 PM To: detomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Another email list test So back on 27 February I sent a test to the list that others on the list received and replied to me (off the list). Since then, I have not seen a single DeTomaso list email. I've attempted to unsubscribe and resubscribe. This is another test to see if the list is working (for me). Thanks, Dan Jones ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 22:09:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Panteratime <panteratime(a)aol.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Removing Clutch master cylinder issue-Help! To: Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com>, Larry Weston <lplugw(a)hotmail.com> Cc: Mike Drew <mikeldrew(a)aol.com>, "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Message-ID: <77870391.35217.1742508551879(a)mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_35216_581893410.1742508551878" Folks,Thanks for the tips on removing the top bolt. Im going to try and get a needle nose vise grip up in that area or have a friend stick a flat head screw driver on the side of the bolt to jam it up and stop rotating, or try a 1/4 in socket. I will see if i can put a "tab " washer in for next time I do this job in the future. As suggested , it will hold the bolt head in place. (Im 69-if there is a next time, ill be glad im still around to do it!) Thanks again for all the help! I wont be doing this job until I fix what may be ignition or exhaust leak for backfiring on de-acceleration and look into an issue with the fast idle cam and choke flap closing and not opening after kick down sequence. Choke flap stays closed after kickdown and wont move again. I think its something with the cam and choke linkage after I pushed the Fast idle cam down in error with my finger. it now seems to be in the wrong position to work correctly. Cliff On Thursday, March 20, 2025 at 06:50:00 AM EDT, Larry Weston <lplugw(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Another way of holding the clutch master reservoir bolts: Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2025, at 4:39 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> wrote: I assume you are familiar with the brake caliper tabs that you bend over to stop the nut backing out right?... Fabricate one for the two bolts of the clutch master and install under the bolt heads to stop them turning or alternatively fabricate a plate and tack weld the bolt heads to it, no more helper required...... I think folks may be getting confused between 'synthetic' and 'silicone' brake fluids, nothing wrong with synthetic and they are typically higher performing than non-synthetic, you however want to stay away from silicone (DoT 5), which is incompatible with earlier fluids and may older brake seals. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 11:44 AM To: Panteratime <panteratime(a)aol.com> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Removing Clutch master cylinder issue-Help! Cliff, Your helper under the dash holds the bolt (I think using 1/4 inch drive ratchet and extension and socket) while you turn the nut from outside. Doing it solo would be a damn hard job. Mike Sent from my iPad On Mar 19, 2025, at 11:22, Panteratime via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Folks, Clutch master cylinder leaking. How do you stop top mounting bolt from spinning under dash? I can get a 13mm closed end wrench on the bottom mounting bolt under dash, cant access top bolt. Any tips appreciated! BTW-tough to find locally DOT 3 "Non synthetic" Brake fluid. Everything is synthetic. Had to order STP brand online! Thanks again! Cliff _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave(a)server.detomasolist.com To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave(a)server.detomasolist.com To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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Removing Clutch master cylinder issue-Help!
by Panteratime 20 Mar '25

20 Mar '25

Folks,Clutch master cylinder leaking. How do you stop top mounting bolt from spinning under dash? I can get a 13mm closed end wrench on the bottom mounting bolt under dash, cant access top bolt. Any tips appreciated! BTW-tough to find locally DOT 3 "Non synthetic" Brake fluid. Everything is synthetic. Had to order STP brand online! Thanks again! Cliff Folks, Clutch master cylinder leaking. How do you stop top mounting bolt from spinning under dash? I can get a 13mm closed end wrench on the bottom mounting bolt under dash, cant access top bolt. Any tips appreciated! BTW-tough to find locally DOT 3 "Non synthetic" Brake fluid. Everything is synthetic. Had to order STP brand online! Thanks again! Cliff

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REMOVE ME
by David 20 Mar '25

20 Mar '25

Attention Mike or whoever is running the Server. PLEASE remove me: david(a)msmcontractors.org <mailto:david@msmcontractors.org> from all emails, chains etc. IT is screwing with my mail account and had locked up my computer twice. PLEASE IMMEDIATELY remove me from all communications. Thank you, David Finley Attention Mike or whoever is running the Server. PLEASE remove me: [1]david(a)msmcontractors.org from all emails, chains etc. IT is screwing with my mail account and had locked up my computer twice. PLEASE IMMEDIATELY remove me from all communications. Thank you, David Finley References 1. mailto:david@msmcontractors.org

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Petronix swap out of points -Advice requested.
by Panteratime 18 Mar '25

18 Mar '25

Folks,Before I lay on top of carb and try and remove distributer cap to replace points n condenser, can I please have guidance on replacing the old ignition components with electronic ignition parts? I understand Petronix is the recommended device to do the swap? Any thing with the distributor itself? Can keep stock Disty? Any recommended Petronix specifically for 351 Cleveland/Pantera? Any installation tips etc..... Thank you in advance. Folks, Before I lay on top of carb and try and remove distributer cap to replace points n condenser, can I please have guidance on replacing the old ignition components with electronic ignition parts? I understand Petronix is the recommended device to do the swap? Any thing with the distributor itself? Can keep stock Disty? Any recommended Petronix specifically for 351 Cleveland/Pantera? Any installation tips etc..... Thank you in advance.

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Dot 3 or Dot 4 for clutch master cylinder? non or synthetic? Thank you!
by Panteratime 18 Mar '25

18 Mar '25

1972 Pantera, stockReplacing clutch master cylinder. Do you recomend Synthetic or non synthetic? Dot 3 or Dot 4? (BTW-Seems Dot 4 is all synthetic at local parts stores). Thanks 1972 Pantera, stock Replacing clutch master cylinder. Do you recomend Synthetic or non synthetic? Dot 3 or Dot 4? (BTW-Seems Dot 4 is all synthetic at local parts stores). Thanks

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Spart plug recommendations-Car backfires on deacceleration
by Panteratime 17 Mar '25

17 Mar '25

Folks,Car is backfiring on deceleration.1972 L-Demon Carb, Eldebrock intake manifold. Stock engine. --No exhaust leak. Removed a few spark plugs, they are dry and tan (ish) brown in color.Plugs are Motorcraft ASF 42c gapped at 40 Rather than remove, regap and clean plugs, can you please recommend what would be a "better" plug and Gap by todays standard? (Car has only about 20k miles on these plugs). What next to troubleshoot backfiring if its not the plugs? Carb cleaner? (although carb look immaculate) Thank you in advance! Cliff-NY Folks, Car is backfiring on deceleration. 1972 L- Demon Carb, Eldebrock intake manifold. Stock engine. --No exhaust leak. Removed a few spark plugs, they are dry and tan (ish) brown in color. Plugs are Motorcraft ASF 42c gapped at 40 Rather than remove, regap and clean plugs, can you please recommend what would be a "better" plug and Gap by todays standard? (Car has only about 20k miles on these plugs). What next to troubleshoot backfiring if its not the plugs? Carb cleaner? (although carb look immaculate) Thank you in advance! Cliff-NY

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Torque Spec ZF to Bell Housing
by Mike & Elizabeth 16 Mar '25

16 Mar '25

If there is anyone out there, can you tell me the torque spec for the ZF to bell housing bolts? We loosened one to use with the engine hoist and I need to tighten it back properly. Thanks, Mike Thomas If there is anyone out there, can you tell me the torque spec for the ZF to bell housing bolts? We loosened one to use with the engine hoist and I need to tighten it back properly. Thanks, Mike Thomas

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Winch points
by jim.kosloskey＠jim-kosloskey.com 15 Mar '25

15 Mar '25

I read somewhere that there are oval cutouts at the front frame on either side which are designed for winching (apparently double strength there). If I recall correctly, they are just ahead of the a-frames and the steering rack. They are designed to be use with T hooks. My Car is in its bubble or I would try to take a picture. I have no idea how easy they are to get to. Jim Kosloskey 1974 Yellow #6949 I read somewhere that there are oval cutouts at the front frame on either side which are designed for winching (apparently double strength there). If I recall correctly, they are just ahead of the a-frames and the steering rack. They are designed to be use with T hooks. My Car is in its bubble or I would try to take a picture. I have no idea how easy they are to get to. Jim Kosloskey 1974 Yellow #6949

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Trailer loading
by Dick Koch 15 Mar '25

15 Mar '25

What are the recomended points to hook up loading straps to the front of the Pantera to wench it onto a trailer? Dick Koch - Atlanta What are the recomended points to hook up loading straps to the front of the Pantera to wench it onto a trailer? Dick Koch - Atlanta

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