August 2016 - DeTomaso - detomasolist.com

Candy, a Pantera racing Icon
by Dick Koch 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Patrick Hals has said it is time to pass the baton, after a great run in "Candy," one of the original eight factory built DeTomaso race cars. To get a "feel" for this great race car, click on the following link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 Candy has been owned by various people around the world, and is one of the most well known of the Panteras, due in large part to it's racing history, a history kept alive by each it's owners. Candy was one of the Panteras featured in a photo album article I posted on Facebook.in 2010, titled "DeTomaso - The 80s", which can be seen by clicking on this direct link: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.169982756375065.35097.10000090025… Dick Koch - Atlanta <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0> Patrick Hals has said it is time to pass the baton, after a great run in "Candy," one of the original eight factory built DeTomaso race cars. To get a "feel" for this great race car, click on the following link: [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 Candy has been owned by various people around the world, and is one of the most well known of the Panteras, due in large part to it's racing history, a history kept alive by each it's owners. Candy was one of the Panteras featured in a photo album article I posted on Facebook.in 2010, titled "DeTomaso - The 80s", which can be seen by clicking on this direct link: [2]https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.169982756375065.35097.1000 00900252005&type=1&l=1b9dc81b39 Dick Koch - Atlanta References Visible links 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0 2. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.169982756375065.35097.10000090025… Hidden links: 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4iWtiKm3-0

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Re: [DeTomaso] Restoration of old albums
by laurieferrari＠aol.com 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Yes PLEASE.... that would be just great. I had so many pictures it would save a tremendous amount of time! Thanks AJ!!! Laurie Message: 4 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:20:13 -0700 From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay(a)asajay.com> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gold mine for POCA Message-ID: <20160817122013.Horde.G0HZrwGz-tmTcca27-UKQZ7(a)webmail.asajay.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Chuck, Yes, problems occur and I agree it's good to have things like that published (if possible) in two or more locations. This is one of the concepts behind "mirroring" other web sites; in case one goes down, the other is still around. I'd like to point out that the "lost" images from the "infection" of the old POCA server were in fact recovered. Only four (as I recall) of the several thousand images were found to be infected, all others were just fine and a new album was put in place on the old server so folks could still access them. Terry Himes helped immensely in that effort and I'd like to thank him again for his work to recover those. I'm not sure what happened to them in the recent move from the old server to the new; I was hoping they were still available and just needed a little work to get them published again on the new site. If something drastic did happen to them. I think I know where a backup exists but will have to check. Are all the owners of those old photo galleries/albums interested in trying to restore those old albums? Asa Jay Yes PLEASE.... that would be just great. I had so many pictures it would save a tremendous amount of time! Thanks AJ!!! Laurie Message: 4 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:20:13 -0700 From: Asa Jay Laughton <[1]asajay(a)asajay.com> To: [2]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Gold mine for POCA Message-ID: <20160817122013.Horde.G0HZrwGz-tmTcca27-[3]UKQZ7(a)webmail.asajay.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Chuck, Yes, problems occur and I agree it's good to have things like that published (if possible) in two or more locations. This is one of the concepts behind "mirroring" other web sites; in case one goes down, the other is still around. I'd like to point out that the "lost" images from the "infection" of the old POCA server were in fact recovered. Only four (as I recall) of the several thousand images were found to be infected, all others were just fine and a new album was put in place on the old server so folks could still access them. Terry Himes helped immensely in that effort and I'd like to thank him again for his work to recover those. I'm not sure what happened to them in the recent move from the old server to the new; I was hoping they were still available and just needed a little work to get them published again on the new site. If something drastic did happen to them. I think I know where a backup exists but will have to check. Are all the owners of those old photo galleries/albums interested in trying to restore those old albums? Asa Jay References 1. mailto:asajay@asajay.com 2. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:UKQZ7@webmail.asajay.com

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Pantera #3887 Review
by Dick Koch 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

For those that are interested, the following link provides a review of the Pantera on which I did a cursory inspection this past Sunday and some pictures of the car. After Mike Langston and I passed on buying the car, I was told it sold to someone in Texas. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1276591225714207.1073741858.10000… Dick Koch - Atlanta For those that are interested, the following link provides a review of the Pantera on which I did a cursory inspection this past Sunday and some pictures of the car. After Mike Langston and I passed on buying the car, I was told it sold to someone in Texas. [1]https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1276591225714207.107374185 8.100000900252005&type=1&l=cebbefed29 Dick Koch - Atlanta References 1. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1276591225714207.1073741858.10000…

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Racecarsdirect.com - DE TOMASO FACTORY GROUP 4
by Mike Drew 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Guys, Patrick Hal's has put the Candy car up for sale. Great video embedded within.... https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/77144/de-tomaso-factory-group-4 Mike Sent from my iPad

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Paddle Shift Pantera on ebay
by Ken Green 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Interesting: De Tomaso: Other | | | | | | | | | | | De Tomaso: OtherUS $78,100.00 Used in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso | | | | View on www.ebay.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | has paddle shift and a pneumatically operated clutch. I was wondering how the throttle is controlled during a shift? Interesting: [1]De Tomaso: Other [2]image [3]De Tomaso: Other US $78,100.00 Used in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso [4]View on www.ebay.com Preview by Yahoo has paddle shift and a pneumatically operated clutch. I was wondering how the throttle is controlled during a shift? References 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/De-Tomaso-Other-/282136109047?forcerrptr=true&hash=… 2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/De-Tomaso-Other-/282136109047?forcerrptr=true&hash=… 3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/De-Tomaso-Other-/282136109047?forcerrptr=true&hash=… 4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/De-Tomaso-Other-/282136109047?forcerrptr=true&hash=…

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Re: [DeTomaso] Renewal
by cengles＠cox.net 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Dear Thomas: Welcome back and God bless you. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Thomas Tornblom wrote: > Given the outcome of the POCA debacle, I have just renewed my > membership for 1 year. Had the previous president been in office I > would not have done that. > > I opted out of printed newsletters as I can just as easily print them > myself, double sided and in full color. > > Cheers, > Thomas > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Re: [DeTomaso] Renewal
by cengles＠cox.net 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Dear Thomas, I am still quite pleased that you renewed. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Thomas Tornblom wrote: > Actually I was due in October, so no "coming back", I never left ;) > > Cheers, > Thomas > > Den 2016-08-18 kl. 15:55, skrev cengles(a)cox.net: >> Dear Thomas: Welcome back and God bless you. Warmest regards, >> Chuck Engles >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Thomas Tornblom wrote: >> >>> Given the outcome of the POCA debacle, I have just renewed my >>> membership for 1 year. Had the previous president been in office I >>> would not have done that. >>> >>> I opted out of printed newsletters as I can just as easily print >>> them >>> myself, double sided and in full color. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Thomas >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>> DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>> etc.) >>> use the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>> any >>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >>> list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an >>> archive >>> or approve the archiving of list messages. >> >> !DSPAM:57b5be54159462199229964! >> > > > -- > Real life: Thomas Törnblom Email: thomas(a)hax.se > Snail mail: Banvallsvägen 14 Phone: +46 18 32 31 18 > S - 754 40 Uppsala, Sweden Mobile: +46 76 209 8320

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Re: [DeTomaso] forum rule: No POCA discussions
by Rob Dumoulin 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

"Paying for meat?" That just sounds dirty. Care to elaborate? On Aug 17, 2016 5:06 PM, "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry(a)ohiotimecorp.com> wrote: > << "off-color" humor >> > > Does this meat we will need to pay more to see it in color? > > Larry (blind to all this) - Cleveland > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf > Of audionut(a)hushmail.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 4:14 PM > To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] forum rule: No POCA discussions > > With all due respect to those who'd like the content of this forum to > be in accordance with their personal preference ..... > I say let 'er rip. There are no "trolls" here. (Well, maybe > me....sometimes I poke fun at people offline who take offense at > benign, silly things like occasional "off-color" humor.) I like all > the POCA discussions, arguments, brouhaha, etc., be they endless or > not. It's nice to know what's going on, even if we don't ever quite > figure that out. People need to hash things out. This is normal and > healthy among passionate people who care about things. If this > scares off anyone, then let 'em be scared off. I mean, is this is a > real car club with real people in it? Or is it afternoon tea-time > with the bridge club? Things are going to get messy from time to time, > perhaps even a bit nasty. So be it. This is why we all (hopefully) > have a fire extinguisher inside our cars-- the damned thing could > catch fire at any moment. (Mine did just a couple of months ago.) > Apparently our former Prez sparked a hell of a fire here. Well > alright then. We dealt with it. No big deal. Thanks again to the > BOD who did the dirty work of putting it out. Yet the embers still > smolder... Shortt is a fiery guy who evidently did some good things > for the club......okay he wound up self-immolating in the process > but.... oh well. I see no reason to hate the guy. The lawsuit > threats were just pitiful, really. I feel kinda bad for the guy if he > was feeling cornered and attacked to the extent he resorted to all > that nonsense. Hopefully, his love of the Pantera outshines his > unpleasant experience with POCA and he continues to enjoy the car as > well as other people who love it. (btw, Facebook makes me nauseous > for some odd reason. Haven't been on it since around 2009. I visit > only reluctantly when details of certain social events can't be known > about any other way.) > Sent using Hushmail > On August 16, 2016 at 1:26 PM, "Ed Mendez" wrote:Hi all, > This email forum is not POCA nor is it run by POCA. It is run by Kurt > and it is the Pantera community, many of whom are not in the club and > all this arguing does not look good to prospective members. I > recommend that you please take this discussion and address it on the > poca.com forum. I believe this was suggested about 200 emails ago, > maybe 300. > > The folks on here want to talk about Pantera stuff, like wheels, and > wiring, and fun, and Monterey and fun, and going fast and fun, and car > shows and fun. Get my point? > > Don't shoot the messenger, I believe I am not wrong in this thinking. > But I know I'm going to get it anyway. :-) > > Have a great Pantera day. > > The POCA PR dude. > > :-) > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > "Paying for meat?"A That just sounds dirty.A Care to elaborate? On Aug 17, 2016 5:06 PM, "Larry - Ohio Time" <[1]Larry(a)ohiotimecorp.com> wrote: << "off-color" humor >> Does this meat we will need to pay more to see it in color? Larry (blind to all this) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of [3]audionut(a)hushmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 4:14 PM To: [4]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] forum rule: No POCA discussions With all due respect to those who'd like the content of this forum to be in accordance with their personal preference ..... I say let 'er rip.A There are no "trolls" here.A (Well, maybe me....sometimes I poke fun at people offline who take offense at benign, silly things like occasional "off-color" humor.) I like all the POCA discussions, arguments, brouhaha, etc., be they endless or not. It's nice to know what's going on, even if we don't ever quite figure that out.A People need to hash things out.A This is normal and healthy among passionate people who care about things.A A If this scares off anyone, then let 'em be scared off.A I mean, is this is a real car club with real people in it?A A Or is it afternoon tea-time with the bridge club? Things are going to get messy from time to time, perhaps even a bit nasty.A So be it.A A This is why we all (hopefully) have a fire extinguisher inside our cars--A A the damned thing could catch fire at any moment.A (Mine did just a couple of months ago.) Apparently our former Prez sparked a hell of a fire here.A Well alright then.A We dealt with it.A No big deal.A Thanks again to the BOD who did the dirty work of putting it out.A Yet the embers still smolder... Shortt is a fiery guy who evidently did some good things for the club......okay he wound up self-immolating in the process but.... oh well.A I see no reason to hate the guy.A The lawsuit threats were just pitiful, really.A I feel kinda bad for the guy if he was feeling cornered and attacked to the extent he resorted to all that nonsense. Hopefully, his love of the Pantera outshines his unpleasant experience with POCA and he continues to enjoy the car as well as other people who love it.A A (btw, Facebook makes me nauseous for some odd reason.A Haven't been on it since around 2009.A I visit only reluctantly when details of certain social events can't be known about any other way.) A Sent using Hushmail On August 16, 2016 at 1:26 PM, "Ed Mendez"A wrote:Hi all, This email forum is not POCA nor is it run by POCA. It is run by Kurt and it is the Pantera community, many of whom are not in the club and all this arguing does not look good to prospective members. I recommend that you please take this discussion and address it on the [5]poca.com forum. I believe this was suggested about 200 emails ago, maybe 300. The folks on here want to talk about Pantera stuff, like wheels, and wiring, and fun, and Monterey and fun, and going fast and fun, and car shows and fun. Get my point? Don't shoot the messenger, I believe I am not wrong in this thinking. But I know I'm going to get it anyway. :-) Have a great Pantera day. The POCA PR dude. :-) _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [6]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:audionut@hushmail.com 4. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. http://poca.com/ 6. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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Renewal
by Thomas Tornblom 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Given the outcome of the POCA debacle, I have just renewed my membership for 1 year. Had the previous president been in office I would not have done that. I opted out of printed newsletters as I can just as easily print them myself, double sided and in full color. Cheers, Thomas

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L bumper stops wind noise ?
by Garth Rodericks 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

Wind noise? No! Reduce high-speed front-end lift? No! The only reason the L bumper was added (in the US only) was to meet US 5 mph bumper regulations, courtesy of the insurance industry and probably Ralph Nader too. Wind noise? No! Reduce high-speed front-end lift? No! The only reason the L bumper was added (in the US only) was to meet US 5 mph bumper regulations, courtesy of the insurance industry and probably Ralph Nader too.

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