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Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk
by marshall smith 25 Aug '16

25 Aug '16

I was going to comment on this stream also. My front trunk clearly gets much hotter than the rear trunk. No lavatory luggage ever gets loaded in the front. Marshall -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 8/10/16, Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk To: "falconjackpam(a)sbcglobal.net" <falconjackpam(a)sbcglobal.net>, "MikeLDrew(a)aol.com" <MikeLDrew(a)aol.com>, "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 7:30 AM Mike, All good advice until I got to the last paragraph, I would caution even keeping a can of fix a flat in the front trunk unless it is behind the battery or against the bulkhead. One Vegas Fun Rally I had a can explode in the front trunk of my car, fortunately no damage, but the sticky mess made the trunk unusable for the rest of the trip and took a good weekend too clean out. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 1:23 PM To: falconjackpam(a)sbcglobal.net; detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk Jack (I assume that's your name?) Your e-mail came through completely blank, but your subject line pretty well lays out your question. Before getting down to specifics, let me suggest something perhaps you hadn't considered. Let's say you're driving down the road and BOOM, you get a flat tire. You pull over, pull out your jack and your spare, install the spare, inflate it, lower the car back onto the road.... ...and then what? Your rare, exotic and expensive factory wheel and flat tire (or equally expensive and rare aftermarket wheel and flat tire) are sitting there on the shoulder of the road. What do you plan to do with them? It's much too big to fit into the car! You're not going to abandon them, so no matter what, you're going to need to call a tow truck. So given that's the case, why even bother carrying a spare? Having said that, if you are really wanting a spare (perhaps for concours), they are rare and expensive, coveted by the Mustang restoration guys. The spare used in the Pantera was the same one used on late 1960s and early 1970s performance Mustangs, including the '69 and '70 Shelby, Boss 302, Boss 429, 428 CJ cars with fold down rear seat and trunk-mounted batteries. There is one available for sale on Ebay right now for $995 plus $36.85 shipping (buy it now price), and another one in much better shape available for auction with a starting price of $395 (but the reserve is likely much higher). Personally I would never trust a 40-year-old collapsible spare tire in any circumstances, so I would view that as a display item only. Others have found that lightweight spacesaver tires from later-model Fords (Crown Vics etc.) will fit, and they can be had from junkyards for a fraction of the cost. But personally, I wouldn't bother. I would carry a can of fix-a-flat (note that some of those use PROPANE as the inflator, and are highly explosive; more than one Pantera has suffered extensive damage from an explosion, so read the label carefully, and keep it in the front trunk!), and a AAA card.... Mike -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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NPC: Ford GT
by Larry Finch 25 Aug '16

25 Aug '16

You mean this car? On display at Pebble. Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.

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NPC: Ford GT
by Larry - Ohio Time 25 Aug '16

25 Aug '16

Ford Performance is adding two more years of production for the all-new carbon fiber Ford GT supercar. The announcement comes on the heels of letters sent to potential customers notifying them of their application status to purchase one of their own, with more than 500 of those coming from the UK alone. The additional production supports the decision by Ford Performance to race Ford GT in both IMSA and World Endurance Championship (WEC) series events for four years, extending through to the 2019 season. "While we can't build enough Ford GTs for everyone who has applied, we are going to produce additional vehicles in an effort to satisfy more of our most loyal Ford ambassadors," says Dave Pericak, global director, Ford Performance. "We want to keep Ford GT exclusive, but at the same time we know how vital this customer is to our brand." Year three of production will support applicants who were placed on the waiting list; previously deferred applicants and those who missed the initial application window will be served by production year four. The application process for fourth-year production will reopen in early 2018. Those who already applied to own the car will only need to update their request. "Ford GT has racing in its blood," says Raj Nair, Ford executive vice president, product development, and chief technical officer. "The road car and race car will live on, side-by-side, for the next four years - providing ample opportunity to test and prove innovative new technologies both on and off the track." Larry (needs to buy lotto ticket) - Cleveland Ford Performance is adding two more years of production for the all-new carbon fiber Ford GT supercar. The announcement comes on the heels of letters sent to potential customers notifying them of their application status to purchase one of their own, with more than 500 of those coming from the UK alone. IFRAME: [1]https://s0.2mdn.net/4568611/1470229675139/index.html The additional production supports the decision by Ford Performance to race Ford GT in both IMSA and World Endurance Championship (WEC) series events for four years, extending through to the 2019 season. "While we can't build enough Ford GTs for everyone who has applied, we are going to produce additional vehicles in an effort to satisfy more of our most loyal Ford ambassadors," says Dave Pericak, global director, Ford Performance. "We want to keep Ford GT exclusive, but at the same time we know how vital this customer is to our brand." Year three of production will support applicants who were placed on the waiting list; previously deferred applicants and those who missed the initial application window will be served by production year four. The application process for fourth-year production will reopen in early 2018. Those who already applied to own the car will only need to update their request. "Ford GT has racing in its blood," says Raj Nair, Ford executive vice president, product development, and chief technical officer. "The road car and race car will live on, side-by-side, for the next four years - providing ample opportunity to test and prove innovative new technologies both on and off the track." Larry (needs to buy lotto ticket) - Cleveland References 1. https://s0.2mdn.net/4568611/1470229675139/index.html

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Redesign of the GT5-S
by The DeTomaso Registry Guy 25 Aug '16

25 Aug '16

When the styling of the Pantera (GT5-S) was considered for updating, DeTomaso created new front and rear sections. See one example, from Pantera 9494 in the registry. This car is also currently up for sale. I like the new rear styling, perhaps more than what went into production on the Pantera Si. Les, feel free to discuss while your update photos are being loaded - grin. Chuck The De Tomaso Registry Guy http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp When the styling of the Pantera (GT5-S) was considered for updating, DeTomaso created new front and rear sections. See one example, from Pantera 9494 in the registry. This car is also currently up for sale. I like the new rear styling, perhaps more than what went into production on the Pantera Si. Les, feel free to discuss while your update photos are being loaded - grin. Chuck The De Tomaso Registry Guy [1]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp [cid:image002.jpg@01D1FB9B.7A2D5930] References 1. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp

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Rear wing
by Bob 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

I am not really sure if my rear wing actually has a lot of function. I have run with and without it at track events but we usually run from 125-140 and I cannot tell the difference. I have been told the angle is not steep enough. I did run silver state and hit 166 with everything feeling stable I think keeping the front planted is more important. I added acrylic to my chin spoiler Bob Benson Sent from my iPhone

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Another one of those Top 5 lists that include a Pantera....yawn
by Rob Dumoulin 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

This one is by Horacio Pagani. Spoiler alert! They are all pre-1980s. http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2016/08/the-five-most-beautiful-cars-of-… This one is by Horacio Pagani.A Spoiler alert! They are all pre-1980s. [1]http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2016/08/the-five-most-beautiful-c ars-of-all-time-according-to-horacio-pagani.html References 1. http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2016/08/the-five-most-beautiful-cars-of-…

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Re: [DeTomaso] Redesign of the GT5-S
by bill 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

Julian, I am not a fan of any rear wings, and I would lose the wheels. I could make it work....... CheersBill MooreCalgary -------- Original message --------From: Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> Date: 2016-08-23 12:50 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Corey Price <coreyjprice(a)gmail.com>, detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Redesign of the GT5-S Corey, If we all liked the same thing it would be a boring World, that said I also have utmost respect for Kirk's work he is a great fabricator and execution of his products is top notch, I have many (lights, fast access panel etc.) on my cars. Julian ________________________________ From: Corey Price <coreyjprice(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:41 AM To: Julian Kift; Detomaso Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Redesign of the GT5-S Julian, While I love the original look of the Pantera, I think this looks good. Sorry to disagree. I have some respect for Kirk Evan's work. We all have our own tastes. Would I do it to my Pantera? No, because my Pre-L car looks great as well, stock. Corey On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>> wrote: Familiarly ugly.... or fugly Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry(a)gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:07 AM Cc: 'DeTomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Redesign of the GT5-S ...and take a look at 1473 [1]http://www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/RTHPNLL01473/ RTHPNLL01473.asp Does this look familiar ??? Chuck _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. 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Corey, If we all liked the same thing it would be a boring World, that said I also have utmost respect for Kirk's work he is a great fabricator and execution of his products is top notch, I have many (lights, fast access panel etc.) on my cars. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: Corey Price <coreyjprice(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:41 AM To: Julian Kift; Detomaso Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Redesign of the GT5-S Julian, While I love the original look of the Pantera, I think this looks good. Sorry to disagree. I have some respect for Kirk Evan's work. We all have our own tastes. Would I do it to my Pantera? No, because my Pre-L car looks great as well, stock. Corey On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Familiarly ugly.... or fugly Julian ____________________________________________________________ ______ From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[3]detomasoregistry(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:07 AM Cc: 'DeTomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Redesign of the GT5-S ...and take a look at 1473 [1][4]http://www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/ RegistryImages/RTHPNLL01473/ RTHPNLL01473.asp Does this look familiar ??? Chuck _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [5]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [2][6]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Julian, I am not a fan of any rear wings, and I would lose the wheels. I could make it work....... Cheers Bill Moore Calgary -------- Original message -------- From: Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> Date: 2016-08-23 12:50 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Corey Price <coreyjprice(a)gmail.com>, detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Redesign of the GT5-S Corey, If we all liked the same thing it would be a boring World, that said I also have utmost respect for Kirk's work he is a great fabricator and execution of his products is top notch, I have many (lights, fast access panel etc.) on my cars. Julian ________________________________ From: Corey Price <coreyjprice(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:41 AM To: Julian Kift; Detomaso Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Redesign of the GT5-S Julian, While I love the original look of the Pantera, I think this looks good. Sorry to disagree. I have some respect for Kirk Evan's work. We all have our own tastes. Would I do it to my Pantera? No, because my Pre-L car looks great as well, stock. Corey On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>> wrote: Familiarly ugly.... or fugly Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@serve r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry(a)gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:07 AM Cc: 'DeTomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Redesign of the GT5-S ...and take a look at 1473 [1]http://www.provamo.com/Members/Registry/RegistryImages/RTHPNLL01473/ RTHPNLL01473.asp Does this look familiar ??? 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Corey, If we all liked the same thing it would be a boring World, that said I also have utmost respect for Kirk's work he is a great fabricator and execution of his products is top notch, I have many (lights, fast access panel etc.) on my cars. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: Corey Price <coreyjprice(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:41 AM To: Julian Kift; Detomaso Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Redesign of the GT5-S Julian, While I love the original look of the Pantera, I think this looks good. Sorry to disagree. I have some respect for Kirk Evan's work. We all have our own tastes. Would I do it to my Pantera? No, because my Pre-L car looks great as well, stock. 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Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler
by bill 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

Wow, thanks, 3.20 would be REAL fast, once wound up, 3.77 yes. CheersBill MooreCalgary -------- Original message --------From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Date: 2016-08-23 4:52 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Ken Green <kenn_green(a)yahoo.com> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler No, that's the 3.77. The intermediate ratio is 4.0. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2016, at 15:34, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > I think Lloyd Butfoy said the 3.20 (3..22?) ring and pinion were called > La Mans gears. > Ken > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall(a)gmail.com> > To: 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com>; > detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com; 'mark skwarek' <ehpantera(a)yahoo.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:31 AM > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler > I know that this has been beaten to death in the past, but seeing the > GT/4 > car made me think... > The Group 4 cars didn't use any sort of rear spoiler. I don't know what > speeds they did down the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans, but assuming > they had > the Le Mans Gear (it's called that for something, right???) they should > have > been well into or above the 165mph zone. > Is a spoiler really necessary? If you really want to know what the > scoop is, > you politely listen to the anecdotal evidence and listen to what the > real > racers do... > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On > Behalf > Of Julian Kift > Sent: martes, 23 de agosto de 2016 20:27 > To: [2]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com; mark skwarek > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler > Larry stock used a simple yet effective (according to him) spoiler that > was > attached to the lip of the decklid. He can probably provide more input > and > better photos. > Julian > ________________________________ > From: mark skwarek <[3]ehpantera(a)yahoo.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:11 AM > To: Julian Kift; [4]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler > Julian > Yes functional. Ill be running up to 165 MPH. > Not enough time to do something like Bob's. > Mark > On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:44 PM, Julian Kift > <[5]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> > wrote: > Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob > Benson has > probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no > technical > information to back up my statement. > Julian > ________________________________ > From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on behalf > of mark > skwarek via DeTomaso <[7]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM > To: DeTomaso List > Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler > I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any > pics. > would be great. > Getting ready for SSCC.Mark > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [8]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > [webicon_gray.png] > [9]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > > References > > 1. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com > 2. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com > 3. mailto:ehpantera@yahoo.com > 4. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com > 5. mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com > 6. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com > 7. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com > 8. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com > 9. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Wow, thanks, 3.20 would be REAL fast, once wound up, 3.77 yes. Cheers Bill Moore Calgary -------- Original message -------- From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Date: 2016-08-23 4:52 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Ken Green <kenn_green(a)yahoo.com> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler No, that's the 3.77. The intermediate ratio is 4.0. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2016, at 15:34, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > I think Lloyd Butfoy said the 3.20 (3..22?) ring and pinion were called > La Mans gears. > Ken > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall(a)gmail.com> > To: 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com>; > detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com; 'mark skwarek' <ehpantera(a)yahoo.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:31 AM > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler > I know that this has been beaten to death in the past, but seeing the > GT/4 > car made me think... > The Group 4 cars didn't use any sort of rear spoiler. I don't know what > speeds they did down the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans, but assuming > they had > the Le Mans Gear (it's called that for something, right???) they should > have > been well into or above the 165mph zone. > Is a spoiler really necessary? If you really want to know what the > scoop is, > you politely listen to the anecdotal evidence and listen to what the > real > racers do... > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On > Behalf > Of Julian Kift > Sent: martes, 23 de agosto de 2016 20:27 > To: [2]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com; mark skwarek > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler > Larry stock used a simple yet effective (according to him) spoiler that > was > attached to the lip of the decklid. He can probably provide more input > and > better photos. > Julian > ________________________________ > From: mark skwarek <[3]ehpantera(a)yahoo.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:11 AM > To: Julian Kift; [4]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler > Julian > Yes functional. Ill be running up to 165 MPH. > Not enough time to do something like Bob's. > Mark > On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:44 PM, Julian Kift > <[5]julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> > wrote: > Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob > Benson has > probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no > technical > information to back up my statement. > Julian > ________________________________ > From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on behalf > of mark > skwarek via DeTomaso <[7]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM > To: DeTomaso List > Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler > I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any > pics. > would be great. > Getting ready for SSCC.Mark > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [8]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > [webicon_gray.png] > [9]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. 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Rear spoiler
by mark skwarek 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. Height Angle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC. Mark

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Were gas tanks mounted on the passenger side from the factory?
by Rob Dumoulin 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of Ghia. It shows a Pre-L (not a push button) with left-hand drive and a petrol fill cap on the passenger side. Also, are those front hood tie down straps on either end by the cowling? Were those rims around in 1970? https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://picclick.ca/Old-Large-Hist… I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of Ghia. It shows a Pre-L (not a push button) with left-hand drive and a petrol fill cap on the passenger side.A Also, are those front hood tie down straps on either end by the cowling?A Were those rims around in 1970? [1]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://picclick.ca/Old-Lar ge-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929.html&ct=ga&cd=C AEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y29tOmVuOlVT &usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg References 1. https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://picclick.ca/Old-Large-Hist…

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