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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">To: pantdino@aol.com; mikeldrew@aol.com; michael@michaelshortt.com<br>From: chrisvkimball@msn.com<br>Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:32:26 -0800<br>CC: detomaso@poca.com<br>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice<br><br>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif;">Yes, the Toyos I'm getting for the front are the same as the rear. The ones on the rear I got a few years ago, and they were the last pair they had.<br>
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<div>Are the Toyos the same type as you have on the rear, or similar wear rating?</div>
<div>If so, they would make sense. Toyo makes a broad range of tires so the manufacturer means little in this case.</div>
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<div>But Mike is right about rear tires-- even some years ago I went to 17" wheels because it was getting too hard to find 15" tires to fit the rear. (Yes, I know Pirelli runs off a batch every so often. But there are so many modern, great tires readily available
in 17" it didn't make sense to me to mess with it.)</div>
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<div style="color:black;font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball@msn.com><br>
To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew@aol.com>; michael <michael@michaelshortt.com><br>
Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso@poca.com><br>
Sent: Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:14 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Bummer. I just assumed if they had 15" 225s they'd have 285 or 295, too.
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<div>Since I bought the front tires, I've driven over 25,000 miles. The tire guy I went to for alignment said the inner tread was down to the replace mark, while the outer tread was still OK, barely. He said the wheels had a slight camber outward, which he
said was probably for better cornering. He said it wasn't significant, but if I were going to drive to San Diego, I should replace the tires before I left.</div>
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<div>Based on all the comments, especially the part about not mixing tire brands, I think I'm going with the Toyos.</div>
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<div>Thanks everyone!</div>
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From: <a href="mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com">MikeLDrew@aol.com</a><br>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:06:48 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice<br>
To: <a href="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com">chrisvkimball@msn.com</a>; <a href="mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com">
michael@michaelshortt.com</a><br>
CC: <a href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a><br>
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In a message dated 2/14/14 7 18 3, <a href="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com">chrisvkimball@msn.com</a> writes:<br>
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<font color="#000000" face="Geneva" size="2"></font><font color="#000000" face="Geneva" size="2">When all four tires wear out next time, my sons will be out of college, so I'll just buy a whole set of the Pirelli P-zeros. They are rated to almost 200 mph.<br>
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>>>No, you won't. They don't make any tires in the appropriate size for the rear of your car. They haven't made them in anything approaching that size for more than 20 years. So don't tell people that you are going to 'just buy a set of Pirellis', because
they will suggest that you do just that. I might suggest it too, if you could, but you can't.<br>
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Beware of listening to advice from people who don't know what kind of car you have, and are simply assuming that you have a GT5 or GT5-S. (He is running 225/50 front and 295/50 rear Toyos on 15x8 and 15x10 wheels, on a stock-body Pantera).<br>
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Your only practical choice is to buy new front tires to match your rears as closely as possible.<br>
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FWIW my H/V rated (rear/front) BFG tires are 20 years old and have been subjected to a fair amount of racetrack use (but less road miles than yours). They still have more than half their (tread) life left, although they are rather hard and slippery (they weren't
much better when new!). Take care to align your car and you should get plenty of years out of your tires too.<br>
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When your front and rear tires wear out, chances are you will be able to find a full set of S-rated BFG tires in the appropriate sizes, but that's about it.<br>
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