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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Kirby and Jack,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Further observations:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Three piece Kinesis wheels on Pantera 1 for almost twenty years and lots of miles: no problems<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> One of the last three piece Etoile 17 inch wheels on Pantera 2 for close to ten years and lots of miles: no problems<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kirby Schrader<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 07, 2014 5:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> De Tomaso List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DeTomaso] Hall Ultra Wheels<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Having now seen the pictures and seeing what they look like, I think it’s interesting to note that Tom Upton has been <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>running those wheels on his 800HP Pantera race car for 15 years, if not more.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>At least, it sure LOOKS like the same wheel. He got them from Hall.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>He’s never had a problem with them to my knowledge, but hey… I’ll ask him personally tomorrow when I see him.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I ran three piece Gottis on my Pantera for years and they are now on the race car.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I’ve never had a problem with them. No leaks, even….<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bombs, indeed…..<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kirby<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 7, 2014, at 17:21, Julian Kift <<a href="mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com">julian_kift@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Now you've done it, sending out e-mails full of crap about how every De Tomaso with 3 piece whels is a potential bomb. You realize you have tjust alterted the NSA to monitor every Panetra movement and next we'll all be put on the "No Drive' list.<br><br>IMHO all 3-piece wheels used on a heavy street car are a bomb waiting to go off- and I'm a guy who loves lightness. I'd love to use such on our Pantera but there<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><i>are</i><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>limits... I suggest making a coffee table out of them. Good luck- J Deryke</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Peter Cajthaml <<a href="mailto:pcajthaml@gmail.com">pcajthaml@gmail.com</a>><br>To: detomaso <<a href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a>><br>Sent: Fri, Feb 7, 2014 11:47 am<br>Subject: [DeTomaso] Hall Ultra Wheels<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="ecxAOLMsgPart_2_6d0a196a-5f74-41b9-9cb3-8b55a82b68eb"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>[resending w/o attached picture]<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>All:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I am in the process of replacing my tires, and thus started to research 2761's wheels - all I know is that they are an early version of the Hall Ultra wheel - probably put on when the car underwent the "Group 5 Conversion" in the late 90's. They are 17", probably 13" wide in the rear, perhaps 9" or 10" wide in the front. I really don't know as I had never unmounted a tire. The tires are Bridgestone Potenza 335/35-17, 255/40-17 (13", 10" wide). <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I read some horror stories online about the 3-piece Ultra wheels (which is what I think I have). Apparently the wheel (or the small bolts holding it together) sometimes crack, resulting in an instant tire deflation. Another post suggested that these wheels should be x-rayed every year to look for cracks.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I'll attach a picture of the car to see if anyone can recognize the wheels. I'd like to hear others' experience with the Hall Ultra wheel - should I be looking to replace them? (If I keep them, I may have them powder-coated black - do they have to be disassembled for that, and what kind of can of worms does that open?)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>thanks for the advice,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Peter<br>#2761<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="ecxAOLMsgPart_3_6d0a196a-5f74-41b9-9cb3-8b55a82b68eb"><pre style='background:white'><tt>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><o:p> </o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><o:p> </o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>DeTomaso mailing list<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><a href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com" target="_blank">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><o:p></o:p></tt></pre></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>_______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA DeTomaso mailing list<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><a href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>_______________________________________________<br><br>Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br><br>DeTomaso mailing list<br><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><br><a href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>