<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>So what's the best suggested approach of having major work done at a car resto/body shop?</div><div>I am myself starting having a car restored/built and painted by a reputable shop as well and want to avoid any future problems.</div><div><br></div><div>I understand paying upfront is a no-no. </div><div>I don't have a contract but everything to be done is in writing by email.</div><div>I am getting billed along the way as work progress.</div><div><br></div><div>Is a contract mandatory in case of future problems?</div><div><br></div><div>Hope I am not hijacking the thread here but this has happened before and will again for somebody in the future, for sure! </div><div>I think bad communications and/or unrealistic expectations may be the cause sometimes, together with poorly performed work, not done in a timely manner. </div><div>Once I had to retrieve a car from a shop due to the shop owner had personal problems, long sad story...</div><div><br></div><div>The thing today with internet and everything, is that from someone you hear a shop is very good and reputable. </div><div>But if you search them yourself on the web you find bad stories posted as well.</div><div>So not easy to pick the right shop. </div><div><br></div><div>Sorry for the long rant!</div><div>Cheers Bjoern</div><div><br></div><div><br>Den 5. feb. 2014 kl. 20:38 skrev <a href="mailto:audionut@hushmail.com">audionut@hushmail.com</a>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px;">Sad to hear stuff like this.<div><br></div><div>Don's shop did my A/C upgrade on time at a fair price around the year 2008. Hard to believe a respected, time-tested shop like this screwed up but....</div><div><br></div><div>The shop is nearly <b>always</b> responsible for horror stories like this. It is the responsibility of the shop to quote the job right, clearly,<b> in writing</b>, and complete</div><div>the job within a reasonable time, barring circumstances beyond the shops' control. Misunderstandings should be easily cleared up by the contract, if they are not,</div><div>then the shop f'd up. </div><div><br></div><div>If the job gets out of hand in some way and the customer gets upset, then it is nothing but a petty, juvenile, bully attitude if the shop then says "Hey if you don't like it, I got your car, I got your money so, nyah nyah nyah. What are you gonna do about it?" </div><div><br></div><div>I can't see how Ed did anything wrong other than pay in full up front. Always a bad idea.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><br>
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<br><br>On February 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, "Pantdino" <<a href="mailto:pantdino@aol.com">pantdino@aol.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote style="border-left:solid 1px #ccc;margin-left:10px;padding-left:10px;"><font color="black" size="2" face="arial">
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<div>Just to give us some background, what was Don supposed to do for the original estimate of $36K? That's a significant amount of money.</div>
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From: Ed Mendez <<a href="mailto:edducati@mac.com">edducati@mac.com</a>><br>
To: detomaso <<a href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a>><br>
Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 2:03 am<br>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Don Byars and what he did to me and my Pantera<br>
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<div>As of now Don Byars refuses to help me or repair any of the damage he did to my Pantera after paying him $42,000 over the last two years! It is shameful behaviour!</div>
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<div>Mike Drew was going to feature my car in Profiles. Sorry but I would rather you did not. Don deserves no advertising.</div>
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<div>Read below how Don held my car as ransom, extorted $6000 more dollars out of me, and made me sign a waiver releasing him of all warranty for work he completed.</div>
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<div>Now I am in another country, I have dumped my car on a friend to finish, and I am out of a lot of cash.</div>
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<div>I guess he did not realise that I have 300+ Pantera friends worldwide on Facebook. I guess he will soon.</div>
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<div style="margin:0;"><b>Date: </b>4 February 2014 17:41:57 NZDT<br>
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<div style="margin:0;"><b>To: </b>Kevin Ryniker <<a>durland@san.rr.com</a>>, 'Westmicro' <<a>westmicro@aol.com</a>>, "<a>mikebecker@cox.net</a>" <<a>mikebecker@cox.net</a>>, "<a>edducati@mac.com</a>" <<a>edducati@mac.com</a>>, "<a>sdpanteras@googlegroups.com</a>" <<a>sdpanteras@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
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<div style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;font-size:12pt;margin:0;"><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;">I can only relate the time I called him to purchase a very small, inexpensive part for my car. His response was “that’s all you want to buy?” to which I said yes. He then sighed and reluctantly took my order. Upon receipt, the part was a poorly reproduced version of the original part, the art work was off-center and after attempting to “fix” it myself, I threw it in the trash. So my only experience with him was he was uninterested in my business and the product he sold and represented me was shit. So no, I will not call him ever again because to me, that behavior speaks to total lack of INTEGRITY AND ETHICS. I hope the $12,000 you bought from him were better than my $25. part.</span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:9pt;"></span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 03, 2014 8:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Westmicro'; <a style="color:purple;">mikebecker@cox.net</a>; <a style="color:purple;">edducati@mac.com</a>; <a style="color:purple;">sdpanteras@googlegroups.com</a><br>
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<div style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;font-size:12pt;margin:0;"><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;">I Have to agree with Mike to the extent that there must be something else going on. This sounds like a cash flow crunch, he is acting like a producer on a show that got in over his head.</span></div>
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<div style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;font-size:12pt;margin:0;"><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;">I known Bobby Buyers for 10 years at least, never had a problem, I’ve easily bought $12,000 worth of parts from him. He has always stood behind his work and his dealings with me. He even warranty parts that I got from Wilkenson and Hall, for free, expensive stuff. Never really delt with Don but I think he is Don’s brother, they used to be in business with each other, might be worthwhile to call Bobby. Just an idea.</span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 03, 2014 7:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a style="color:purple;">mikebecker@cox.net</a>; <a style="color:purple;">edducati@mac.com</a>; <a style="color:purple;">sdpanteras@googlegroups.com</a><br>
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From: Michael Becker <<a style="color:purple;">mikebecker@cox.net</a>><br>
To: 'Ed Mendez' <<a style="color:purple;">edducati@mac.com</a>>; 'San Diego Panteras' <<a style="color:purple;">sdpanteras@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
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<div id="AOLMsgPart_0_59271711-d18b-48f1-8028-88d276ae07e4"><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">Holy crap, that's terrible Ed. So sorry to hear this. I don't understand,</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">I've never heard a bad thing about Don. I've also never had any work done</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">by him, but the general perception is that his work speaks for itself. I</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">can't imagine what his reasoning is. I don't have any kind of relationship</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">with him, so I don't really feel I could speak to him. Maybe something just</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">got into him and he needs time to realize the pickle he's put you in. Maybe</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">he's got some other troubles and sort of reached a breaking point or</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">something like that. Perhaps he'll come around and somehow make good on it.</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">I would hold off on slinging mud until all options for reconciliation are</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">exhausted. </tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">Hang in there, </tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">Mike</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';"> </tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';"> </tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">-----Original Message-----</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">From: <a style="color:purple;">sdpanteras@googlegroups.com</a> [<a style="color:purple;">mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com</a>] On</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">Behalf Of Ed Mendez</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 4:39 PM</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">To: San Diego Panteras</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">Subject: [SDP] Hi Everyone please read</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';"> </tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';"> </tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">Hi all,</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';"> </tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">Made it to New Zealand and started work. Still a bit jet lagged but that is</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">nothing compared to how I feel from what Don Byars did to me before I left.</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';"> </tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">After paying Don $36,000 in cash and up front and paying my final invoiced</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">bill on Jan. 22nd. There were some electrical issues from the Pantera</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">Electronics parts I bought. There were two blown up boards, Pantera not</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">charging, and several other issues. This was NOT from Pantera Electronics</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">however, it was from Don not following the simple directions and hooking</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">things up wrong. So he spent the next four days trying to sort out the</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">issues. On the 28th he called me and said come and get this car out of my</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">shop! I asked if it was done, he said no, and it is not running either. He</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">verbally told me on the 22nd that it would be about $2000 more and he would</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">have it all finished including the seats bolted in on the seat rails, the</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">seat belts, and all be working. What he told me on the phone shocked me. He</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">said that I now owed him an additional $6300 and that knowing I was leaving,</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">he wanted cash, and would not release the car until I paid him in full! </tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';"> </tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">I have always paid him up front, and in advance. Since I was leaving the</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">country, he gave me no choice, I had to come up with cash. He delivered the</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">car to me, backed it out of his trailer still hooked to the cable, I then</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">paid him in full and he refused to unhook the car until I signed a waiver</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">releasing him of any work related defects!!!</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';"> </tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">He treated me like a criminal and EXTORTED $6000 from me!</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';"> </tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">Now the car is sitting in Vista, Ca. The seats were not bolted in, the belts</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">were not done, seat rails, scratches in my paint under the hood, he left my</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">brand new air compressor disconnected and exposed to air. The car runs but</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">electrically a mess, far from being done, and far from being in a state of</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">condition for the money I paid him.</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';"> </tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">Don Byars is a thief to the Nth degree! And he did all this in front of</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">whom? The new President of POCA!</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';"> </tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">Just wondering if he is completely stupid!? I just wonder what I did, I was</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">utterly insulted. What did I do to deserve this? His wife told me Don was</tt></pre><pre style="background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">mad because I did not let him finish the car!!!??? I paid him a total of</tt></pre><pre style="z-index:auto;background-color:#FFF;font-family:'Courier New';font-size:10pt;margin:0;"><tt style="font-family:'Courier New';">$42,000. He knew the drop dead date months before I was leaving. Even John Haas of Pantera Electronics offered to help, Don did not call him once!!! I asked John Haas to call him.</tt></pre></div>
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