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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OK, question from the unwashed . . . <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What does the zinc anode do in a cooling system?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif";color:#002060'>Mike Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>VP, POCA<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>VP, Panteras Northwest<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yellow ’74 #6328<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>jgkrenton@comcast.net<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> Asa Jay Laughton<br><b>Cc:</b> detomaso@poca.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DeTomaso] Sacrificial Zinc anode<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>All:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>These are known as "Pencil Anodes" and are widely available in the marine industry. Not a bad idea for any cooling system..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.marinepartssource.com/products.asp?cat=7&CatName=Anodes&Sub1=3&Sub2=0&Sub3=0&SubCategory=Pencil%20Anodes">http://www.marinepartssource.com/products.asp?cat=7&CatName=Anodes&Sub1=3&Sub2=0&Sub3=0&SubCategory=Pencil%20Anodes</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>FYI<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jeff/2467<o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center id=zwchr></span></div><p><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>"Asa Jay Laughton" <<a href="mailto:asajay@asajay.com">asajay@asajay.com</a>><br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:01:53 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[DeTomaso] Sacrificial Zinc anode<br><br>I'd recommend the zinc anode. I first installed one in the water pump but later moved it to the upper hole in the Fluidyne radiator. It doubles as an air bleed by opening it slightly, and doesn't cause a mess when I go to drain the radiator through the regular drain cock:<br><br><img border=0 width=300 height=225 id=theImageId src="cid:image001.jpg@01CF1C52.32890410" alt="Flex-a-lite 32060 - Flex-a-lite Zinc Anode
Drain Plug Replacement Kit"><br><br>The photo is from Jegs because Summit doesn't have a photo. (and neither does the Fluidyne site).<br><br>Asa jay<o:p></o:p></span></p><pre><span style='color:black'>Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'>& Shelley Marie<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'>Spokane, WA<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'>****************************** <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.racingagainstautism.com/" target="_blank">http://www.racingagainstautism.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.teampanteraracing.com/" target="_blank">http://www.teampanteraracing.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'><a href="http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism" target="_blank">http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>On 1/26/2014 1:24 PM, Stephen Nelson wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>I look forward to hearing what a couple of the more knowledgeable guys will say on this, but heck, being a chemical engineer who has worked on industrial air coolers – I am having a hard time understanding how a radiator can flow air only one way. Not wanting to suggest a mechanic is wrong, but it is a rather curious suggestion. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Running fans backwards may sound like an ok thing to do, but the blades just don’t work that way. Whether that would cause a 50% reduction in flow – that at least is debatable – but they didn’t say 50%, they said as much as – which I can’t disagree with.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Chock up 5% for blockage, and another 5% for what ever was coating the inside of the tubes, and, well another 5% for expanded section of the core – even if the reversed fans were only 20% reduced, total here comes to 35% reduction. Which really can’t help anything.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>I did note their recommendation for a zinc anode in the drain plug. Now this sounds like a hell of a good idea – I added it to my list of things to do for 5332. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoAutoSig><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Stephen Nelson</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoAutoSig><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoAutoSig><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><a href="http://www.snclocks.com/" target="_blank">SNClocks.com</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoAutoSig><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Click here to join one of our mailing lists <a href="http://fs19.formsite.com/kagforms/form675003155/index.html" target="_blank">Contact Lists</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Click here for our new </span><span style='color:navy'><a href="http://www.snclocks.com/TheRestofourWorld/Hammered-Dulcimers/About-Steves-Dulcimers/19824807_4sHGgj#1558377542_LKmkrT7" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hammered Dulcimers</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> galleries</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Click here for <a href="http://www.perfectoldman.com/" target="_blank">my new blog</a> on finding happiness in retirement </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:black'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> DeTomaso [<a href="mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com" target="_blank">mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Bell<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:LEVITT1946@aol.com" target="_blank">LEVITT1946@aol.com</a>; <a href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com" target="_blank">detomaso@poca.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DeTomaso] FLUIDYNE RADIATOR STORY</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I respectfully disagree completely with your conclusions…</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I actually see nothing wrong with their conclusion other than the cylinder head gasket assumption.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It looks like the real problem was someone put the wrong fans on the radiator.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I see no evidence that the radiator was at fault. If the radiator was ruined by the pressure washer then we could have just replaced the fans to prove one way or another what was at fault. But because the radiator was ruined, there was no choice but to replace it.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you really want to prove something, put the original fans back on it and watch the problem come back… Since your car is running fine now, Don’t DO THAT. My point is, there is no proof yet that the radiator was at fault.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just chock it up to lesion learned. Fluidyne radiators have been working fine for hundreds of Pantera Owners and I really DON’T see know way a radiator could only flow air only one way, BUT, a fan can do that. In addition, if the radiator truly only flowed air one way, it would overheat at speed as well as in traffic.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just my opinion, but I think blaming Fluidyne is a bit premature here.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Scott</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> DeTomaso [<a href="mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com" target="_blank">mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:LEVITT1946@aol.com" target="_blank">LEVITT1946@aol.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:28 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com" target="_blank">detomaso@poca.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [DeTomaso] FLUIDYNE RADIATOR STORY</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hello All,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Many of you go thru high heat issues with the Pantera. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>When I purchased my car in 2008 the previous owner told me if I was in traffic to just pull over . I was determined to cure this car from high heat exposure. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The first things I attached on the car was the following:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Replaced Water Pump with Hi Flow Water Pump </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Replaced Thermostat ( many times)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Replaced the old brass radiator with an new Aluminum radiator from Summit.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Replaced Meriah fans with new sucker fans</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Replaced antifreeze and purged air from system (many times)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Did complete Tune Up. ( many times)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Now it was time for the big test. I got on the highway and the car was holding temp at a steady 180. The minute I got off the highway the temp started rising to the point of boil over. I could hear my pressure bottle perculating.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>This went on for years. I drove the car across the USA in the Gumball Rally.As long as the car was moving I knew we would be ok and we made it from Santa Monica California to Miami Beach safely.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The car was still running hot so I tracked down an NOS Pressure tank and overflow bottle from a place in Modena Italy. I thought maybe there was something wrong with my pressure and overflow bottles.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>My local mechanic replaced the pressure and overflow bottles and the car started to overheat immediately. The only part to look at now was the FLUIDYNE Radiator that I had replaced 4 years ago when I purchased the car.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>We let the car cool a little and then restarted the car. My mechanic said he was going to run water over the front of the radiator when I started the car. I was in the car while it was running to see if the water temp would lower as he ran the hose on the front of the FLUIDYNE radiator. The temp was lowering! . Then he said shut the car. My Mechanic said that since I had sucker fans my car should have been sprayed with water when he ran the water on the front of the radiator. Instead the car was DRY . This meant that the radiator was now allowing the water to flow through and thus no air could flow through either.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Next step was to reverse the fans to blow out the front of the car and leave it idling in place . The car ran at a steady 180 for 30 minutes and the temp did not rise. This told us that the radiator was fault and only flowed ONE WAY .</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I could not believe that the radiator could be faulty. I drove home and cleaned the radiator with a pressure washer and ruined every fin on the radiator. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Then I contacted the owner of Fluidyne. I explained what we had done and in summary we felt we had a one way radiator that could only flow air one way . I also admitted that I had pressure washed the radiator and ruined the outside fins. Hard to believe but TRUE.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>He asked me to send the radiator to him and if they faund any defect in workmanship he would replace the radiator at no charge. He came up with every excuse possible. He cut the radiator in half to look at the internals of the radiator. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Here is FLUIDYNES actual response</span></u></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>Good Morning Robert,</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'> </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><u><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>Further to our investigation</span></u></i><i><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>:</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1D1B11'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1D1B11'> </span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>Your radiator was inspected upon receipt and found to be ‘bloated’ … swollen in the middle of the core, consistent with symptoms of over-pressurization.</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1D1B11'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1D1B11'> </span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>The fans were tested while installed on the core and operation was verified. They seemed to pull a reasonable amount of air. </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1D1B11'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1D1B11'> </span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>The fans were then removed and inspected. The fans are “pusher” fans… not “puller” fans as you were told. [See pic 3 to see arrow markings]</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1D1B11'>o</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1D1B11'> </span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>They most likely were wired to work as “pullers” but the performance would be significantly hampered considering the pitch of the blade is backwards</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1D1B11'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1D1B11'> </span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>The Inlet/Outlet water tank was removed to inspect the core. Debris was found near the top & bottom [see pic 1 and 2] which had plugged several tubes.</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1D1B11'>o</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1D1B11'> </span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>This is not a significant blockage but we noted that foreign debris was indeed inside the core. </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1D1B11'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1D1B11'> </span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>The Return water tank was then removed [pic 4] which showed a significant amount of engine oil has passed thru the core. </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1D1B11'>o</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1D1B11'> </span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>We suspect this oil was introduced to the radiator by failure of a cylinder head gasket.</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1D1B11'>o</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1D1B11'> </span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>I appears the oil remained in the core for some time as it would not wipe off. </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1D1B11'>o</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1D1B11'> </span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>We also assume this failure created the high pressure event that caused the core to be over-pressurized.</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1D1B11'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1D1B11'> </span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>The Core shows no internal structural damage and the outside structure [air fin] was heavily damaged as you know and has rendered the core useless.</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'> </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><u><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>Conclusion</span></u></i><i><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>:</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>The outside air fin has sustained significant damage and 90% of the louvers have been bent shut in both directions. The radiator core appears to be sound. We noted no failures of our Materials or Workmanship nor evidence of Electrolysis erosion. The over-pressurization event, while it likely created the ‘bloated’ shape of the unit, does not appear to have affected the core’s performance. </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'> </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>The only anomaly we discovered was the fact that as installed, the pusher fans were likely wired to run backwards as puller fans. This creates significant turbulence in and around the fan housing and would reduce performance by as much as 50%</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'> </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><u><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>Next Steps</span></u></i><i><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>:</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1D1B11'>As I mentioned, we have initiated production of a replacement radiator [with the new 5-row Pantera core] for you. Per your instructions, we will install your fan temp sensors on the new core. You have also asked us to install your fans but in light of the problems noted here, I believe you may want to consider replacing these units. We can install new Spal units [the only brand I handle] if you prefer and I also suggest we install a Zinc Anode in the drain bung to protect against Electrolysis in the future.</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>All of FLUIDYNES excuses and blaming the engine had cylinder head gasket leaks was a bunch of BS. I ended up paying for the new radiator and fans because I had no choice . Fluidyne should have stood behind their product but they DID NOT.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>We installed the new radiator on the car as well as two lights on the dash that would tell me when each fan was on and off. This way I knew the fans were working.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>We let the car run for a solid hour at the shop and the car never rose over 180 degrees. The high heat problem that existed for years was finally gone. My mechanic said that once I hit the highway the fans would actually shut off. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On the way home from the shop both fans were RUNNING as they should. I entered the highway and in five minutes one fan shut down and then the other. I now had total confidence in the car. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I guess the cylinder head gasket leaks that Fluidyne said my engine had, repaired itself . BS</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Just thought you guys should know.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Best ,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Bob Levitt</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><pre><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'>Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'>DeTomaso mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com" target="_blank">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'><a href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com" target="_blank">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=avgcert><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com/" target="_blank">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3681/6534 - Release Date: 01/26/14<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br><br>DeTomaso mailing list<br><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><br><a href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>