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<DIV>Hello All,</DIV>
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<DIV>Many of you go thru high heat issues with the Pantera. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>When I purchased my car in 2008 the previous owner told me if I was in
traffic to just pull over . I was determined to cure this car from high heat
exposure. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The first things I attached on the car was the following:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Replaced Water Pump with Hi Flow Water Pump </DIV>
<DIV>Replaced Thermostat ( many times)</DIV>
<DIV>Replaced the old brass radiator with an new Aluminum radiator from
Summit.</DIV>
<DIV>Replaced Meriah fans with new sucker fans</DIV>
<DIV>Replaced antifreeze and purged air from system (many times)</DIV>
<DIV>Did complete Tune Up. ( many times)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Now it was time for the big test. I got on the highway and the car was
holding temp at a steady 180. The minute I got off the highway the temp started
rising to the point of boil over. I could hear my pressure bottle
perculating.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This went on for years. I drove the car across the USA in the Gumball
Rally.As long as the car was moving I knew we would be ok and we made it from
Santa Monica California to Miami Beach safely.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The car was still running hot so I tracked down an NOS Pressure tank and
overflow bottle from a place in Modena Italy. I thought maybe there was
something wrong with my pressure and overflow bottles.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My local mechanic replaced the pressure and overflow bottles and the car
started to overheat immediately. The only part to look at now was the FLUIDYNE
Radiator that I had replaced 4 years ago when I purchased the car.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>We let the car cool a little and then restarted the car. My mechanic said
he was going to run water over the front of the radiator when I started the car.
I was in the car while it was running to see if the water temp would lower as he
ran the hose on the front of the FLUIDYNE radiator. The temp was lowering! .
Then he said shut the car. My Mechanic said that since I had sucker fans my
car should have been sprayed with water when he ran the water on the front of
the radiator. Instead the car was DRY . This meant that the radiator was
now allowing the water to flow through and thus no air could flow through
either.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Next step was to reverse the fans to blow out the front of the car and
leave it idling in place . The car ran at a steady 180 for 30 minutes and the
temp did not rise. This told us that the radiator was fault and only flowed ONE
WAY .</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I could not believe that the radiator could be faulty. I drove home and
cleaned the radiator with a pressure washer and ruined every fin on the
radiator. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Then I contacted the owner of Fluidyne. I explained what we had done and in
summary we felt we had a one way radiator that could only flow air one way . I
also admitted that I had pressure washed the radiator and ruined the outside
fins. Hard to believe but TRUE.</DIV>
<DIV>He asked me to send the radiator to him and if they faund any defect in
workmanship he would replace the radiator at no charge. He came up
with every excuse possible. He cut the radiator in half to look at the internals
of the radiator. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><U>Here is FLUIDYNES actual response</U></STRONG>:</DIV>
<DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11">Good Morning
Robert,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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class=MsoNormal><I><U><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11">Further to our
investigation</SPAN></U></I><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11">:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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</SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Your
radiator was inspected upon receipt and found to be ‘bloated’ … swollen in the
middle of the core, consistent with symptoms of
over-pressurization.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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</SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The fans
were tested while installed on the core and operation was verified. They
seemed to pull a reasonable amount of air. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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</SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The fans
were then removed and inspected. The fans are “pusher” fans… not “puller”
fans as you were told. [See pic 3 to see arrow
markings]<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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style="COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 7pt"> </SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">They most
likely were wired to work as “pullers” but the performance would be
significantly hampered considering the pitch of the blade is
backwards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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</SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The
Inlet/Outlet water tank was removed to inspect the core. Debris was found
near the top & bottom [see pic 1 and 2] which had plugged several
tubes.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">o</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 7pt"> </SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">This is
not a significant blockage but we noted that foreign debris was indeed inside
the core. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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</SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The Return
water tank was then removed [pic 4] which showed a significant amount of engine
oil has passed thru the core. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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style="COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 7pt"> </SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">We suspect
this oil was introduced to the radiator by failure of a cylinder head
gasket.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">o</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 7pt"> </SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I appears
the oil remained in the core for some time as it would not wipe off.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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style="COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 7pt"> </SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">We also
assume this failure created the high pressure event that caused the core to be
over-pressurized.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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</SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The Core
shows no internal structural damage and the outside structure [air fin] was
heavily damaged as you know and has rendered the core
useless.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11">Conclusion</SPAN></U></I><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11">:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11">The outside air fin has
sustained significant damage and 90% of the louvers have been bent shut in both
directions. The radiator core appears to be sound. We noted no
failures of our Materials or Workmanship nor evidence of Electrolysis
erosion. The over-pressurization event, while it likely created the
‘bloated’ shape of the unit, does not appear to have affected the core’s
performance. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11">The only anomaly we
discovered was the fact that as installed, the pusher fans were likely wired to
run backwards as puller fans. This creates significant turbulence in and
around the fan housing and would reduce performance by as much as
50%<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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class=MsoNormal><I><U><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11">Next
Steps</SPAN></U></I><I><SPAN
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class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1d1b11">As
I mentioned, we have initiated production of a replacement radiator [with the
new 5-row Pantera core] for you. Per your instructions, we will install
your fan temp sensors on the new core. You have also asked us to install
your fans but in light of the problems noted here, I believe you may want to
consider replacing these units. We can install new Spal units [the only
brand I handle] if you prefer and I also suggest we install a Zinc Anode in the
drain bung to protect against Electrolysis in the
future.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P></DIV>
<DIV>All of FLUIDYNES excuses and blaming the engine had cylinder head
gasket leaks was a bunch of BS. I ended up paying for the new radiator and fans
because I had no choice . Fluidyne should have stood behind their product but
they DID NOT.</DIV>
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<DIV>We installed the new radiator on the car as well as two lights on the dash
that would tell me when each fan was on and off. This way I knew the fans were
working.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>We let the car run for a solid hour at the shop and the car never
rose over 180 degrees. The high heat problem that existed for years was finally
gone. My mechanic said that once I hit the highway the fans would actually
shut off. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>On the way home from the shop both fans were RUNNING as they should. I
entered the highway and in five minutes one fan shut down and then the other. I
now had total confidence in the car. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I guess the cylinder head gasket leaks that Fluidyne said my engine had,
repaired itself . BS</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Just thought you guys should know.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best ,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bob Levitt</DIV>
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