<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span></span></div><div>Scott,</div><div><br></div><div>They claim that is does recover files from a formatted disk, but that is no guarantee. I could try reformatting a spare drive and see what it finds.</div><div><br></div><div>I recall that the real spy systems can detect artifacts of past data even when the same physical locations were written on, I guess that's when you get into the big bucks.</div><div><br></div><div>Ken</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="hr" style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: none; height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" contenteditable="false" readonly="true"></div>
<font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Scott Bell <scott@saccrestorations.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Ken Green' <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; 'Charles McCall' <charlesmccall@gmail.com>; detomaso@poca.com <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, January 10, 2014 11:53 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - am I really Information Technologically screwed?<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv0729521826"><style>#yiv0729521826 #yiv0729521826 --
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#yiv0729521826 </style><div><div class="yiv0729521826WordSection1"><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Ken,</span></div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">That won’t work on a formatted drive…</span></div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Scott</span></div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0729521826yqt0209257061" id="yiv0729521826yqt89031"><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-image: none;"><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken Green<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 10, 2014 11:51 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Charles McCall; detomaso@poca.com<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - am I really Information Technologically screwed?</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>I bought a copy of this to try to recover some files:</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span><a href="http://www.iolo.com/promo/welcome/sr/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.iolo.com/promo/welcome/sr/</a></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>
</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>seemed to work, but I'd guess that if new data has been stored in the same location, it can't be recovered.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>My suggestion would be to clone the old hard derive before updating the operating system so you can go back temporarily if you have to.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Ken</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>
</span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Charles McCall <<a href="mailto:charlesmccall@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:charlesmccall@gmail.com">charlesmccall@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a> <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 10, 2014 10:56 AM<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> [DeTomaso] NPC - am I really Information Technologically screwed?</span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span> </span></div><div id="yiv0729521826"><div><div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;">Hi
all</span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;">My laptop had Windows 8 installed yesterday. Before installing it, I dutifully backed up all my files, in anticipation of the reformatting. </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;">I have 2 e-mail accounts, my work account and the gmail account I am using to write this. </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;">I
saved the two Outlook Data Files that were located in Microsoft/Outlook. I handed my computer over for the lobotomy. </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;">I got it back and restored my outlook files, but found that the most recent e-mail in my gmail account was from July, 2011. </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;">Long story, but I now see that the Outlook Data File from my gmail account has “date last modified” of July 2011. This must mean that
at some point, Outlook began storing e-mails elsewhere, but I don’t know where, and at this point I suppose it doesn’t really matter. </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;">When you link your Gmail account to Outlook, when you send/receive and the e-mail is downloaded to Outlook, it disappears from the web-application of Gmail. It appears on the cloud until you connect, at which point it gets presumably erased. </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:
11pt;">I’ve apparently lost 100% of my e-mails. All the planning for Le Mans Classic, confirmations of payment, confirmation of schedules… We’re trying to sell some property on the Mediterranean and we have agreed to meet people there in 2 weeks and again other in 4 weeks. Their data is all in Outlook. I use it to store a lot of data, and I’m really kind of screwed if I can’t get it back. </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;">Any suggestions? </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background:
white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt;">If you are going on the LMC trip, I have your e-mail addresses and payment info in the famous Excel sheet, but not a single e-mail else… Thanks!</span><span></span></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv0729521826MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br clear="none"><br clear="none">DeTomaso mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><br clear="none"><a href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div
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