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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>If you do not understand how something works, and I mean "REALLY" understand it. You can never properly repair it!! Just sayin:-)<br><br><strong><em><font size="5">Russ</font></em></strong><br>
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714-870-8570<br><br> <BR><div>> From: detomaso-request@poca.com<br>> Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 115, Issue 8<br>> To: detomaso@poca.com<br>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:00:01 -0700<br>> <br>> Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to<br>> detomaso@poca.com<br>> <br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> detomaso-request@poca.com<br>> <br>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> detomaso-owner@poca.com<br>> <br>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..."<br>> <br>> <br>> Daily Detomaso List Digest<br>> <br>> Today's Topics:<br>> <br>> 1. Re: NPC: Maserati Kyalami (R.J)<br>> 2. lifts (Bob Lehmann)<br>> 3. Ping Ping (LS)<br>> 4. Re: Ping Ping (Ken Green)<br>> 5. Re: lifts (Jack Donahue)<br>> 6. Re: DAN JONES YOUR INPUT REQUESTED (Daniel C Jones)<br>> 7. Re: Ping Ping (Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar)<br>> 8. Re: Ping Ping (LS)<br>> 9. Re: Ping Ping (Bill Moore)<br>> 10. DAN JONES YOUR INPUT REQUESTED (Garth Rodericks)<br>> 11. Re: NPC: Maserati Kyalami (Mike Thomas)<br>> 12. Re: Ping Ping (MikeLDrew@aol.com)<br>> 13. Re: Ping Ping (JEFFREY COBB)<br>> 14. Re: Ping Ping (Asa Jay Laughton)<br>> 15. Re: Ping Ping (Jerry Knotts)<br>> 16. Re: Ping Ping (Will Kooiman)<br>> 17. Re: Sun visors needed (Peter Menyhart)<br>> 18. NPC (Boyd Casey)<br>> 19. Re: NPC (michael@michaelshortt.com)<br>> 20. Re: NPC (Larry - Ohio Time Corp.)<br>> 21. Re: NPC (Himes, Terry (397C))<br>> 22. Re: NPC (Julian Kift)<br>> 23. Re: NPC (Himes, Terry (397C))<br>> 24. Re: NPC (michael@michaelshortt.com)<br>> 25. Re: NPC (dave londry)<br>> <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 21:50:54 +0100<br>> From: R.J <willibillie@live.de><br>> To: "MikeLDrew@aol.com" <MikeLDrew@aol.com><br>> Cc: "detomaso@poca.com" <detomaso@poca.com>, "mbefthomas@comcast.net"<br>> <mbefthomas@comcast.net><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Maserati Kyalami<br>> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP13247470D7487B20ABF64ADB3B60@phx.gbl><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br>> <br>> I found it just the other way. I served a lot of Kyalami owners with Longchamp parts over the years.<br>> Roland<br>> <br>> Am 07.01.2014 um 16:24 schrieb MikeLDrew@aol.com:<br>> <br>> <br>> In a message dated 1/7/14 5 41 24, mbefthomas@comcast.net writes:<br>> <br>> <br>> > Flipping through an old sports car book, and stumbled across the Maserati<br>> > Kyalami. Didn't realize Alejandro built a Maser version of the Longchamp<br>> > after he bought Maserati. Here is an old BaT article on one from 2009.<br>> > <br>> > http://bringatrailer.com/2009/11/13/rare-tjaarda-coupe-1978-maserati-kyalami<br>> > /<br>> <br>> <br>> >>>Yup, it was a Frua body (the Longchamp was a Ghia design) built on the Longchamp chassis with the Maserati engine.<br>> <br>> Lots of Longchamp owners who struggle to find parts from De Tomaso, are able to source them from Maserati instead....<br>> <br>> Mike<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> <br>> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140107/1b12fb56/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 17:39:45 -0500<br>> From: Bob Lehmann <bob@longwood2.com><br>> To: detomaso@poca.com<br>> Subject: [DeTomaso] lifts<br>> Message-ID: <6BBA78AB-668D-40D8-BAC2-986AE384F428@longwood2.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br>> <br>> I agree with those who say a lift should be done by guys who do it for a living. If anything doesn't work they can fix and adjust and the parts are heavy (I have a drive on lift). I would look at new lifts also. I have seen some real used crap out there (pretty spray can paint can hide lots of things).<br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 3<br>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 14:42:53 -0800 (PST)<br>> From: LS <lashdeep@yahoo.com><br>> To: Detomaso List <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <1389134573.87262.YahooMailNeo@web120202.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ?<br>> I don?t even like golf?but need some input.<br>> ?<br>> On long uphill (high load) sections of road, under moderate<br>> throttle openings and when the supercharger goes into positive boost, the<br>> engine starts to ping. This will happen only when in overdrive and with revs<br>> below 2000rpm.<br>> ?<br>> Vehicle : Laforza Magnum GT, 5300 lbs<br>> ?<br>> Engine : 5.0 HO with factory Kenne Bell supercharger, no<br>> intercooler and cast iron heads.<br>> ?<br>> Trans: AOD 4spd<br>> ?<br>> Fuel : 93 Octane<br>> ?<br>> Elevation : Sea Level up to 1000?<br>> ?<br>> Water Temp : Never exceeds 195F during the ?situation?<br>> ?<br>> To remedy the situation, I have adjusted the trans to<br>> kickdown sooner and have also retarded timing. This has helped but not<br>> eliminated the problem.<br>> ?<br>> Any thoughts on permanent solutions?<br>> ?<br>> Aluminum heads? Intercooler?<br>> ?<br>> I?ve heard the full spectrum of ideas so I thought I?d post<br>> it here for discussion.<br>> ?<br>> I want loads of power (who doesn?t?) but I want to eliminate<br>> this problem ASAP so I can get many more decades out of this powertrain. <br>> ?<br>> Thanks,<br>> LS<br>> ?<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> central <br>> wines-spirits?? est 1934<br>> <br>> <br>> 625 e street nw<br>> <br>> washington, dc 20004<br>> <br>> centralwines.com<br>> <br>> <br>> facebook.com/CentralLiquors <br>> <br>> <br>> 202-737-2800<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140107/6b2806ae/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 4<br>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 14:55:24 -0800 (PST)<br>> From: Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com><br>> To: LS <lashdeep@yahoo.com>, Detomaso List <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <1389135324.67483.YahooMailNeo@web162506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> Seems like water/alcohol injection is the easiest to add.<br>> <br>> Ken<br>> <br>> <br>> ________________________________<br>> From: LS <lashdeep@yahoo.com><br>> To: Detomaso List <detomaso@poca.com> <br>> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 2:42 PM<br>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> I don?t even like golf?but need some input. <br>> <br>> On long uphill (high load) sections of road, under moderate<br>> throttle openings and when the supercharger goes into positive boost, the<br>> engine starts to ping. This will happen only when in overdrive and with revs<br>> below 2000rpm. <br>> <br>> Vehicle : Laforza Magnum GT, 5300 lbs <br>> <br>> Engine : 5.0 HO with factory Kenne Bell supercharger, no<br>> intercooler and cast iron heads. <br>> <br>> Trans: AOD 4spd <br>> <br>> Fuel : 93 Octane <br>> <br>> Elevation : Sea Level up to 1000? <br>> <br>> Water Temp : Never exceeds 195F during the ?situation? <br>> <br>> To remedy the situation, I have adjusted the trans to<br>> kickdown sooner and have also retarded timing. This has helped but not<br>> eliminated the problem. <br>> <br>> Any thoughts on permanent solutions? <br>> <br>> Aluminum heads? Intercooler? <br>> <br>> I?ve heard the full spectrum of ideas so I thought I?d post<br>> it here for discussion. <br>> <br>> I want loads of power (who doesn?t?) but I want to eliminate<br>> this problem ASAP so I can get many more decades out of this powertrain. <br>> <br>> Thanks, <br>> LS <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> central <br>> wines-spirits?? est 1934<br>> <br>> <br>> 625 e street nw<br>> <br>> washington, dc 20004<br>> <br>> centralwines.com<br>> <br>> <br>> facebook.com/CentralLiquors <br>> <br>> <br>> 202-737-2800<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> <br>> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140107/341ab238/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 5<br>> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 15:54:52 -0800<br>> From: Jack Donahue <demongusta@me.com><br>> To: Bob Lehmann <bob@longwood2.com><br>> Cc: detomaso@poca.com<br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] lifts<br>> Message-ID: <96DCEC45-00CA-4D1E-BB16-A4F87CAEDECA@me.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br>> <br>> If you're going to be under the car, don't be cheap.<br>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Bob Lehmann wrote:<br>> <br>> > I agree with those who say a lift should be done by guys who do it for a living. If anything doesn't work they can fix and adjust and the parts are heavy (I have a drive on lift). I would look at new lifts also. I have seen some real used crap out there (pretty spray can paint can hide lots of things).<br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > <br>> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> > <br>> > DeTomaso mailing list<br>> > DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 6<br>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 18:11:31 -0600<br>> From: Daniel C Jones <daniel.c.jones2@gmail.com><br>> To: "clewis@dmn.net" <clewis@dmn.net><br>> Cc: POCA list <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DAN JONES YOUR INPUT REQUESTED<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CAD=EzWWCUcr9MZbs7pjSKvH8ObVMe2zmghnLzzzLjb8Zj_Yw6g@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> <br>> I'm tied up this evening but should be home tomorrow night. Home<br>> phone is 314-838-1298 (better connection than my cell). Dan<br>> <br>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:50 AM, clewis@dmn.net <clewis@dmn.net> wrote:<br>> > Dan when are you available for a phone discussion?<br>> ><br>> > Last year middle of the season a beehive spring broke and dropped the valve.<br>> ><br>> > I am ready to rebuild but have a number of things I would like your input on.<br>> ><br>> > The springs were PAC Beehive 1220XX. Good for .650 lift. They had started to experience cascading failures. Broke one and replaced<br>> > it and then a second different one failed and dropped the valve.<br>> ><br>> > The actual lift is .665, but a phone call with PAC when the engine was built said this should not be a problem. I spoke with them<br>> > myself as did Jeff Lawrence. Clearly either this was wrong or somehow the engine was over revved.<br>> ><br>> > PAC has provided a full set of replacement springs, the same 1220XX.<br>> ><br>> > I am thinking if I don't change the cam I need to use 1255xx, good for .700 lift or 1295xx good for .750 lift.<br>> ><br>> > I suspect the damage to the bottom end is relatively minor. The valve dropped after the engine had stalled and I was trying to<br>> > restart the engine (clutch was disenganged and there was no weight of a moving car against the drivetrain.<br>> ><br>> > Should I consider titanium intake valves to take weight out and stress out of the valve train?<br>> ><br>> > Will the reduction in weight enable the valve train to have better control?<br>> ><br>> > Will titanium valves with the proper coating be durable in a street application? (Isn't this what the new Corvette uses?)<br>> ><br>> > How would you approach this rebuild to address the obvious and maybe not so obvious issues?<br>> ><br>> > Best Regards, Chris Lewis<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> ><br>> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> ><br>> > DeTomaso mailing list<br>> > DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 7<br>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:21:26 -0500<br>> From: Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar <arjun.ghoshdastidar@gmail.com><br>> To: Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com><br>> Cc: detomaso@poca.com<br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CAJQq=2xtYXZhDWi2T9JVqLhPmjTCEkzsroXXyevT-t+NpP3kcw@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br>> <br>> Forced induction with heavy loads without intercooling is asking for<br>> trouble. Put an intercooler on the car and you'll be fine.<br>> On Jan 7, 2014 5:56 PM, "Ken Green" <kenn_green@yahoo.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> > Seems like water/alcohol injection is the easiest to add.<br>> ><br>> > Ken<br>> > *From:* LS <lashdeep@yahoo.com><br>> > *To:* Detomaso List <detomaso@poca.com><br>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 7, 2014 2:42 PM<br>> > *Subject:* [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I don?t even like golf?but need some input.<br>> ><br>> > On long uphill (high load) sections of road, under moderate throttle<br>> > openings and when the supercharger goes into positive boost, the engine<br>> > starts to ping. This will happen only when in overdrive and with revs below<br>> > 2000rpm.<br>> ><br>> > Vehicle : Laforza Magnum GT, 5300 lbs<br>> ><br>> > Engine : 5.0 HO with factory Kenne Bell supercharger, no intercooler and<br>> > cast iron heads.<br>> ><br>> > Trans: AOD 4spd<br>> ><br>> > Fuel : 93 Octane<br>> ><br>> > Elevation : Sea Level up to 1000?<br>> ><br>> > Water Temp : Never exceeds 195F during the ?situation?<br>> ><br>> > To remedy the situation, I have adjusted the trans to kickdown sooner and<br>> > have also retarded timing. This has helped but not eliminated the problem.<br>> ><br>> > Any thoughts on permanent solutions?<br>> ><br>> > Aluminum heads? Intercooler?<br>> ><br>> > I?ve heard the full spectrum of ideas so I thought I?d post it here for<br>> > discussion.<br>> ><br>> > I want loads of power (who doesn?t?) but I want to eliminate this problem<br>> > ASAP so I can get many more decades out of this powertrain.<br>> ><br>> > Thanks,<br>> > LS<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > *central *<br>> ><br>> > *wines-spirits est 1934*<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > *625 e street nw*<br>> > *washington, dc 20004*<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > *centralwines.com <http://centralwines.com/>*<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > *facebook.com/CentralLiquors <http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors> *<br>> ><br>> > *202-737-2800 <202-737-2800>*<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> ><br>> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> ><br>> > DeTomaso mailing list<br>> > DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> ><br>> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> ><br>> > DeTomaso mailing list<br>> > DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> ><br>> ><br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140107/25a22ecf/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 8<br>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:24:02 -0800 (PST)<br>> From: LS <lashdeep@yahoo.com><br>> To: Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar <arjun.ghoshdastidar@gmail.com>, Ken Green<br>> <kenn_green@yahoo.com><br>> Cc: "detomaso@poca.com" <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <1389140642.59072.YahooMailNeo@web120201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> Scoreboard <br>> <br>> Water injection - 1<br>> Intercooler - 1<br>> Dyno tune and ECU remap - 1<br>> <br>> Thanks,<br>> LS<br>> <br>> <br>> ?<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> central <br>> wines-spirits?? est 1934<br>> <br>> <br>> 625 e street nw<br>> <br>> washington, dc 20004<br>> <br>> centralwines.com<br>> <br>> <br>> facebook.com/CentralLiquors <br>> <br>> <br>> 202-737-2800<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ________________________________<br>> From: Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar <arjun.ghoshdastidar@gmail.com><br>> To: Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com> <br>> Cc: Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep@yahoo.com>; detomaso@poca.com <br>> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 7:21 PM<br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Forced induction with heavy loads without intercooling is asking for trouble. Put an intercooler on the car and you'll be fine.<br>> <br>> On Jan 7, 2014 5:56 PM, "Ken Green" <kenn_green@yahoo.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> Seems like water/alcohol injection is the easiest to add.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Ken<br>> ><br>> >From: LS <lashdeep@yahoo.com><br>> >To: Detomaso List <detomaso@poca.com> <br>> >Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 2:42 PM<br>> >Subject: [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> > <br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >?<br>> >I don?t even like golf?but need some input.<br>> >?<br>> >On long uphill (high load) sections of road, under moderate<br>> throttle openings and when the supercharger goes into positive boost, the<br>> engine starts to ping. This will happen only when in overdrive and with revs<br>> below 2000rpm.<br>> >?<br>> >Vehicle : Laforza Magnum GT, 5300 lbs<br>> >?<br>> >Engine : 5.0 HO with factory Kenne Bell supercharger, no<br>> intercooler and cast iron heads.<br>> >?<br>> >Trans: AOD 4spd<br>> >?<br>> >Fuel : 93 Octane<br>> >?<br>> >Elevation : Sea Level up to 1000?<br>> >?<br>> >Water Temp : Never exceeds 195F during the ?situation?<br>> >?<br>> >To remedy the situation, I have adjusted the trans to<br>> kickdown sooner and have also retarded timing. This has helped but not<br>> eliminated the problem.<br>> >?<br>> >Any thoughts on permanent solutions?<br>> >?<br>> >Aluminum heads? Intercooler?<br>> >?<br>> >I?ve heard the full spectrum of ideas so I thought I?d post<br>> it here for discussion.<br>> >?<br>> >I want loads of power (who doesn?t?) but I want to eliminate<br>> this problem ASAP so I can get many more decades out of this powertrain. <br>> >?<br>> >Thanks,<br>> >LS<br>> >?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >central <br>> >wines-spirits?? est 1934<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >625 e street nw<br>> ><br>> >washington, dc 20004<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >centralwines.com<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >facebook.com/CentralLiquors <br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >202-737-2800<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >_______________________________________________<br>> ><br>> >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> ><br>> >DeTomaso mailing list<br>> >DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> >http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >_______________________________________________<br>> ><br>> >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> ><br>> >DeTomaso mailing list<br>> >DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> >http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> ><br>> ><br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140107/20e9531d/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 9<br>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 00:27:48 +0000<br>> From: "Bill Moore" <bill@incendium.com><br>> To: "LS" <lashdeep@yahoo.com>, "Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar"<br>> <arjun.ghoshdastidar@gmail.com>, "Ken Green" <kenn_green@yahoo.com><br>> Cc: "detomaso@poca.com" <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <271040974-1389140867-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-491857013-@b28.c16.bise6.blackberry><br>> <br>> Content-Type: text/plain<br>> <br>> Remember in golf it's the low score. <br>> Bill Moore<br>> Incendium Supply<br>> Calgary<br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: LS <lashdeep@yahoo.com><br>> Sender: "DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces@poca.com>Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:24:02 <br>> To: Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar<arjun.ghoshdastidar@gmail.com>; Ken Green<kenn_green@yahoo.com><br>> Reply-To: LS <lashdeep@yahoo.com><br>> Cc: detomaso@poca.com<detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> <br>> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 10<br>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:41:21 -0800 (PST)<br>> From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks@yahoo.com><br>> To: "clewis@dmn.net" <clewis@dmn.net>, DeTomaso Mail List<br>> <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: [DeTomaso] DAN JONES YOUR INPUT REQUESTED<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <1389141681.80522.YahooMailNeo@web122105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>> <br>> Hey Chris,<br>> <br>> I just had a beehive valve spring break on my new engine too, after only 987 miles. I was using the Lunati 74820-16 Pacaloy valve spring kit.<br>> <br>> Specs:<br>> 1.88" installed height<br>> 377 lbs open<br>> 370 lbs/in rate<br>> .600" coil bind<br>> <br>> Max lift on my roller cam is .588", but the #7 intake valve broke with only .576" lift.<br>> <br>> My machine shop did a root cause analysis on the failure and determined it was the result of coil bind.<br>> Not all the springs achieve bind at the same compressed height - I didn't check for this when assembling my engine; I trusted the specs from Lunati/Pacaloy. Turns out I had less than .020" clearance between coils on some springs at full lift, which is insufficient.<br>> <br>> A detriment of the beehive springs is that if one breaks, the valve drops into the cylinder - thankfully damage was minimal on my engine.<br>> All my beehive valve springs are now being replaced with traditional dual springs - anyone want a deal on 15 beehive springs for a Cleveland? Ha!? :)<br>> Good luck to you!<br>> Garth<br>> #4033 - the Banzai Runner<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140107/055125dd/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 11<br>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:55:30 -0800<br>> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas@comcast.net><br>> To: <MikeLDrew@aol.com>, <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Maserati Kyalami<br>> Message-ID: <004d01cf0c0c$543f5010$fcbdf030$@comcast.net><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br>> <br>> Somehow, me thinks the Cleveland would be a bit cheaper to work on than the<br>> Maser 4-cam. I noticed the BaT car was a stick. Wonder how many of the<br>> Kyalami's were.<br>> <br>> Mike T.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> From: MikeLDrew@aol.com [mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com] <br>> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 7:24 AM<br>> To: mbefthomas@comcast.net; detomaso@poca.com<br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Maserati Kyalami<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> In a message dated 1/7/14 5 41 24, mbefthomas@comcast.net<br>> <mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> writes:<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Flipping through an old sports car book, and stumbled across the Maserati<br>> Kyalami. Didn't realize Alejandro built a Maser version of the Longchamp<br>> after he bought Maserati. Here is an old BaT article on one from 2009.<br>> <br>> http://bringatrailer.com/2009/11/13/rare-tjaarda-coupe-1978-maserati-kyalami<br>> /<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> >>>Yup, it was a Frua body (the Longchamp was a Ghia design) built on the<br>> Longchamp chassis with the Maserati engine.<br>> <br>> Lots of Longchamp owners who struggle to find parts from De Tomaso, are able<br>> to source them from Maserati instead....<br>> <br>> Mike<br>> <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140107/9b1148fd/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 12<br>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 20:38:28 -0500 (EST)<br>> From: MikeLDrew@aol.com<br>> To: lashdeep@yahoo.com, detomaso@poca.com<br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> Message-ID: <614e1.116c6ddc.3ffe0618@aol.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br>> <br>> <br>> In a message dated 1/7/14 14 44 1, lashdeep@yahoo.com writes:<br>> <br>> <br>> > On long uphill (high load) sections of road, under moderate throttle <br>> > openings and when the supercharger goes into positive boost, the engine starts <br>> > to ping. This will happen only when in overdrive and with revs below <br>> > 2000rpm.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> <br>> >>>I'm far from an expert but it sounds like a classic case of excessive <br>> compression. I suspect that the blower was bolted onto a standard engine; <br>> ideally the compression ratio would have been lowered when the engine was <br>> built.<br>> <br>> You suggested different heads, which is perhaps a viable solution, but <br>> another choice might be to change pistons to lower the CR?<br>> <br>> What about water injection?<br>> <br>> Mike<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140107/73da9348/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 13<br>> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:30:23 -0600<br>> From: JEFFREY COBB <jeffcobb1@me.com><br>> To: LS <lashdeep@yahoo.com><br>> Cc: Detomaso List <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> Message-ID: <CC7973FD-7FDD-485E-9D97-0A10130DD4C4@me.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> Hey LS,<br>> Sounds like your knock sensors are not doing their job, this Ford system is designed not to allow pings. Hook up a scanner and drive and reproduce the flaw and note rpm/ignition advance degrees at your flawed load manifold pressure. Remap the ecu only after a knock sensor function test is done so as to identify what is wrong because something is. Then after knowing and fixing the flaw then water/alcohol injection can be used for a smarter power increase. Of course an intercooler is the best plan, heck a low amount of fogged nitrous will also cool the intake track for a much quicker dynamic cool down under light positive load. Use a Jacobs programmer and set your nitrous spray curves. <br>> Get in touch with the Kenny Bell company as this maybe an inherent flaw in this Ford application and they know the fix protocol.<br>> Hope this helps,<br>> <br>> Jeff<br>> <br>> Jeff Cobb- I pad<br>> W-225-343-7525<br>> C-225-907-4514<br>> <br>> Jeff Cobb Auto Works<br>> 1316 S. Acadian Thruway<br>> Baton Rouge, La.<br>> 70806<br>> <br>> www.LiveOakConcours.org<br>> <br>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 4:42 PM, LS <lashdeep@yahoo.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > I don?t even like golf?but need some input.<br>> > <br>> > On long uphill (high load) sections of road, under moderate throttle openings and when the supercharger goes into positive boost, the engine starts to ping. This will happen only when in overdrive and with revs below 2000rpm.<br>> > <br>> > Vehicle : Laforza Magnum GT, 5300 lbs<br>> > <br>> > Engine : 5.0 HO with factory Kenne Bell supercharger, no intercooler and cast iron heads.<br>> > <br>> > Trans: AOD 4spd<br>> > <br>> > Fuel : 93 Octane<br>> > <br>> > Elevation : Sea Level up to 1000?<br>> > <br>> > Water Temp : Never exceeds 195F during the ?situation?<br>> > <br>> > To remedy the situation, I have adjusted the trans to kickdown sooner and have also retarded timing. This has helped but not eliminated the problem.<br>> > <br>> > Any thoughts on permanent solutions?<br>> > <br>> > Aluminum heads? Intercooler?<br>> > <br>> > I?ve heard the full spectrum of ideas so I thought I?d post it here for discussion.<br>> > <br>> > I want loads of power (who doesn?t?) but I want to eliminate this problem ASAP so I can get many more decades out of this powertrain.<br>> > <br>> > Thanks,<br>> > LS<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > central<br>> > wines-spirits est 1934<br>> > <br>> > 625 e street nw<br>> > washington, dc 20004<br>> > <br>> > centralwines.com<br>> > <br>> > facebook.com/CentralLiquors <br>> > <br>> > 202-737-2800<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > <br>> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> > <br>> > DeTomaso mailing list<br>> > DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140107/5186ece6/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 14<br>> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 19:06:07 -0800<br>> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com><br>> To: detomaso@poca.com<br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> Message-ID: <52CCC09F.60009@asajay.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br>> <br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140107/455e0471/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 15<br>> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 22:20:23 -0600<br>> From: Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com><br>> To: detomaso@poca.com<br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> Message-ID: <52CCD207.3060604@galstar.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"<br>> <br>> <br>> I guess over the years I have used all of the above except knock sensor <br>> change. Never really had the ping but I have used water/methanol, 50 <br>> shot of Nitrous with a Jacobs unit, also have 3 different pullies for <br>> the for the snout of the blower. A 6 lb, 9 lb and an 11 lb pulley. I <br>> run the 11 lb usually and the tensioner allows for the difference in <br>> diameter without changing the belt. I did run a 18 lb Blowzilla on my <br>> '94 Lightning for a while and was reminded of the fact that constant <br>> boost provides constant heat, that is where I used the 50 shot at lower <br>> rpm's.<br>> <br>> The knock sensor sounds the easiest to check.<br>> <br>> Jerry<br>> On 1/7/2014 8:30 PM, JEFFREY COBB wrote:<br>> > Hey LS,<br>> > Sounds like your knock sensors are not doing their job, this Ford <br>> > system is designed not to allow pings. Hook up a scanner and drive and <br>> > reproduce the flaw and note rpm/ignition advance degrees at your <br>> > flawed load manifold pressure. Remap the ecu only after a knock sensor <br>> > function test is done so as to identify what is wrong because <br>> > something is. Then after knowing and fixing the flaw then <br>> > water/alcohol injection can be used for a smarter power increase. Of <br>> > course an intercooler is the best plan, heck a low amount of fogged <br>> > nitrous will also cool the intake track for a much quicker dynamic <br>> > cool down under light positive load. Use a Jacobs programmer and set <br>> > your nitrous spray curves.<br>> > Get in touch with the Kenny Bell company as this maybe an inherent <br>> > flaw in this Ford application and they know the fix protocol.<br>> > Hope this helps,<br>> ><br>> > Jeff<br>> ><br>> > Jeff Cobb- I pad<br>> > W-225-343-7525<br>> > C-225-907-4514<br>> ><br>> > Jeff Cobb Auto Works<br>> > 1316 S. Acadian Thruway<br>> > Baton Rouge, La.<br>> > 70806<br>> ><br>> > www.LiveOakConcours.org <http://www.LiveOakConcours.org><br>> ><br>> > On Jan 7, 2014, at 4:42 PM, LS <lashdeep@yahoo.com <br>> > <mailto:lashdeep@yahoo.com>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> >><br>> >> I don't even like golf...but need some input.<br>> >> On long uphill (high load) sections of road, under moderate throttle <br>> >> openings and when the supercharger goes into positive boost, the <br>> >> engine starts to ping. This will happen only when in overdrive and <br>> >> with revs below 2000rpm.<br>> >> Vehicle : Laforza Magnum GT, 5300 lbs<br>> >> Engine : 5.0 HO with factory Kenne Bell supercharger, no intercooler <br>> >> and cast iron heads.<br>> >> Trans: AOD 4spd<br>> >> Fuel : 93 Octane<br>> >> Elevation : Sea Level up to 1000'<br>> >> Water Temp : Never exceeds 195F during the "situation"<br>> >> To remedy the situation, I have adjusted the trans to kickdown sooner <br>> >> and have also retarded timing. This has helped but not eliminated the <br>> >> problem.<br>> >> Any thoughts on permanent solutions?<br>> >> Aluminum heads? Intercooler?<br>> >> I've heard the full spectrum of ideas so I thought I'd post it here <br>> >> for discussion.<br>> >> I want loads of power (who doesn't?) but I want to eliminate this <br>> >> problem ASAP so I can get many more decades out of this powertrain.<br>> >> Thanks,<br>> >> LS<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> /*central */<br>> >> /*wines-spirits est 1934<br>> >> */<br>> >> /*<br>> >> */<br>> >> /*625 e street nw<br>> >> */<br>> >> /*washington, dc 20004*/<br>> >> /*<br>> >> */<br>> >> /*centralwines.com <http://centralwines.com/><br>> >> */<br>> >> /*<br>> >> */<br>> >> /*facebook.com/CentralLiquors <http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors><br>> >> */<br>> >> /*<br>> >> */<br>> >> /*202-737-2800*/<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >><br>> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> >><br>> >> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> >> DeTomaso@poca.com <mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com><br>> >> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> ><br>> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> ><br>> > DeTomaso mailing list<br>> > DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140107/74f01c99/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 16<br>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 23:32:45 -0500<br>> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman@gmail.com><br>> To: Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com><br>> Cc: detomaso@poca.com<br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ping Ping<br>> Message-ID: <F46EABF0-853C-4930-BA59-090D0E35C333@gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br>> <br>> I agree with Jerry. If it was factory equipped with a supercharger, and it is pinging, something is wrong. The knock sensor is the easiest to check.<br>> <br>> There are many other possible problems. Before you redesign the engine, look for something that is broken.<br>> <br>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 11:20 PM, Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> > <br>> > I guess over the years I have used all of the above except knock sensor change. Never really had the ping but I have used water/methanol, 50 shot of Nitrous with a Jacobs unit, also have 3 different pullies for the for the snout of the blower. A 6 lb, 9 lb and an 11 lb pulley. I run the 11 lb usually and the tensioner allows for the difference in diameter without changing the belt. I did run a 18 lb Blowzilla on my '94 Lightning for a while and was reminded of the fact that constant boost provides constant heat, that is where I used the 50 shot at lower rpm's.<br>> > <br>> > The knock sensor sounds the easiest to check.<br>> > <br>> > Jerry<br>> > On 1/7/2014 8:30 PM, JEFFREY COBB wrote:<br>> >> Hey LS,<br>> >> Sounds like your knock sensors are not doing their job, this Ford system is designed not to allow pings. Hook up a scanner and drive and reproduce the flaw and note rpm/ignition advance degrees at your flawed load manifold pressure. Remap the ecu only after a knock sensor function test is done so as to identify what is wrong because something is. Then after knowing and fixing the flaw then water/alcohol injection can be used for a smarter power increase. Of course an intercooler is the best plan, heck a low amount of fogged nitrous will also cool the intake track for a much quicker dynamic cool down under light positive load. Use a Jacobs programmer and set your nitrous spray curves. <br>> >> Get in touch with the Kenny Bell company as this maybe an inherent flaw in this Ford application and they know the fix protocol.<br>> >> Hope this helps,<br>> >> <br>> >> Jeff<br>> >> <br>> >> Jeff Cobb- I pad<br>> >> W-225-343-7525<br>> >> C-225-907-4514<br>> >> <br>> >> Jeff Cobb Auto Works<br>> >> 1316 S. Acadian Thruway<br>> >> Baton Rouge, La.<br>> >> 70806<br>> >> <br>> >> www.LiveOakConcours.org<br>> >> <br>> >> On Jan 7, 2014, at 4:42 PM, LS <lashdeep@yahoo.com> wrote:<br>> >> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> I don?t even like golf?but need some input.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> On long uphill (high load) sections of road, under moderate throttle openings and when the supercharger goes into positive boost, the engine starts to ping. This will happen only when in overdrive and with revs below 2000rpm.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> Vehicle : Laforza Magnum GT, 5300 lbs<br>> >>> <br>> >>> Engine : 5.0 HO with factory Kenne Bell supercharger, no intercooler and cast iron heads.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> Trans: AOD 4spd<br>> >>> <br>> >>> Fuel : 93 Octane<br>> >>> <br>> >>> Elevation : Sea Level up to 1000?<br>> >>> <br>> >>> Water Temp : Never exceeds 195F during the ?situation?<br>> >>> <br>> >>> To remedy the situation, I have adjusted the trans to kickdown sooner and have also retarded timing. This has helped but not eliminated the problem.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> Any thoughts on permanent solutions?<br>> >>> <br>> >>> Aluminum heads? Intercooler?<br>> >>> <br>> >>> I?ve heard the full spectrum of ideas so I thought I?d post it here for discussion.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> I want loads of power (who doesn?t?) but I want to eliminate this problem ASAP so I can get many more decades out of this powertrain.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> Thanks,<br>> >>> LS<br>> >>> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> central<br>> >>> wines-spirits est 1934<br>> >>> <br>> >>> 625 e street nw<br>> >>> washington, dc 20004<br>> >>> <br>> >>> centralwines.com<br>> >>> <br>> >>> facebook.com/CentralLiquors <br>> >>> <br>> >>> 202-737-2800<br>> >>> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> _______________________________________________<br>> >>> <br>> >>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> >>> <br>> >>> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> >>> DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> >>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> <br>> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> >> <br>> >> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> >> DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> >> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > <br>> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> > <br>> > DeTomaso mailing list<br>> > DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140107/17a606c3/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 17<br>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 08:12:08 -0800<br>> From: Peter Menyhart <pmenyhart@msn.com><br>> To: asa jay <asajay@asajay.com>, "detomaso@poca.com"<br>> <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sun visors needed<br>> Message-ID: <BAY175-W4F3308228769496D90600A5B10@phx.gbl><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>> <br>> I gave away all the sunvisors I had.sorry to those that didn't get any.<br>> Had no clue how many people wanted them<br>> <br>> Peter <br>> <br>> check out our website at: www.whitehorseranch.com <br>> <br>> > Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 21:42:12 -0800<br>> > From: asajay@asajay.com<br>> > To: detomaso@poca.com<br>> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Sun visors needed<br>> > <br>> > I am seeking a set of stock Pantera sunvisors, any condition. Please<br>> > contact me if you have a pair you can part with.<br>> > <br>> > Thank you,<br>> > Asa Jay<br>> > <br>> > Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired<br>> > & Shelley Marie<br>> > Spokane, WA<br>> > ****************************** <br>> > http://www.racingagainstautism.com<br>> > http://www.teampanteraracing.com<br>> > http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > <br>> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> > <br>> > DeTomaso mailing list<br>> > DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140108/adeebbae/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 18<br>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:26:54 -0500<br>> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411@gmail.com><br>> To: "detomaso@poca.com" <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CALsQ=cuUyzBSRmWF_jGpXAbtf4j=__iGAju3EQGVi9=6xvA7kA@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>> <br>> Today is Elvis Presleys 79th birthday and Turner movie classics is showing<br>> "Spinout" What a great selection of old Cobras, Jags, Vettes, Ferraris and<br>> other cars I don't know off hand (look like can am types) like Chapparels<br>> etc. Catch it if you can.<br>> Boyd<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140108/386eecf0/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 19<br>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:30:46 -0500<br>> From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" <michael@michaelshortt.com><br>> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411@gmail.com><br>> Cc: "detomaso@poca.com" <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CAEWtxWq3=UfgVMBui3xL8UwnRPSs7KdzMhKn9p7_tAHGg1ZPLg@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>> <br>> Thank you...Thank you very much....<br>> <br>> <br>> You know somebody would say it<br>> <br>> <br>> Michael<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> > Today is Elvis Presleys 79th birthday and Turner movie classics is showing<br>> > "Spinout" What a great selection of old Cobras, Jags, Vettes, Ferraris and<br>> > other cars I don't know off hand (look like can am types) like Chapparels<br>> > etc. Catch it if you can.<br>> > Boyd<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> ><br>> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> ><br>> > DeTomaso mailing list<br>> > DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Michael L. Shortt<br>> Savannah, Georgia<br>> www.michaelshortt.com<br>> michael@michaelshortt.com<br>> 912-232-9390<br>> <br>> <br>> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy<br>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally<br>> privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified<br>> that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this<br>> communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you<br>> have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140108/f0ebf894/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 20<br>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:43:46 -0500<br>> From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp." <Larry@ohiotimecorp.com><br>> To: <michael@michaelshortt.com>, "'Boyd Casey'" <boyd411@gmail.com><br>> Cc: detomaso@poca.com<br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> Message-ID: <C5543C73BB544E8896370D81184B6566@LarryHPPC><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br>> <br>> Elvis has left the planet<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Larry (blue blue..) - Cleveland<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com] On Behalf Of<br>> michael@michaelshortt.com<br>> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:31 PM<br>> To: Boyd Casey<br>> Cc: detomaso@poca.com<br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Thank you...Thank you very much....<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> You know somebody would say it<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Michael<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> Today is Elvis Presleys 79th birthday and Turner movie classics is showing<br>> "Spinout" What a great selection of old Cobras, Jags, Vettes, Ferraris and<br>> other cars I don't know off hand (look like can am types) like Chapparels<br>> etc. Catch it if you can.<br>> <br>> Boyd<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> <br>> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Michael L. Shortt<br>> Savannah, Georgia<br>> www.michaelshortt.com<br>> michael@michaelshortt.com<br>> 912-232-9390<br>> <br>> <br>> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy<br>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally<br>> privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified<br>> that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this<br>> communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you<br>> have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you <br>> <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140108/a9d050b5/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 21<br>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 17:44:24 +0000<br>> From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov><br>> To: "michael@michaelshortt.com" <michael@michaelshortt.com>, Boyd<br>> Casey <boyd411@gmail.com><br>> Cc: "detomaso@poca.com" <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> Message-ID: <CEF2CE32.4CD5F%thimes@jpl.nasa.gov><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br>> <br>> Thank you? Thank you very much? Would please pass the mashed potatoes!<br>> <br>> <br>> Terry W. Himes<br>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory<br>> Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead<br>> Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead<br>> Phone: (818) 393-6261<br>> Cell: (818) 653-8213<br>> Fax: (818) 393-3147<br>> thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov><br>> <br>> <br>> From: "michael@michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com>" <michael@michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com>><br>> Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:30 AM<br>> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411@gmail.com<mailto:boyd411@gmail.com>><br>> Cc: "detomaso@poca.com<mailto:detomaso@poca.com>" <detomaso@poca.com<mailto:detomaso@poca.com>><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> <br>> Thank you...Thank you very much....<br>> <br>> <br>> You know somebody would say it<br>> <br>> <br>> Michael<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411@gmail.com<mailto:boyd411@gmail.com>> wrote:<br>> Today is Elvis Presleys 79th birthday and Turner movie classics is showing "Spinout" What a great selection of old Cobras, Jags, Vettes, Ferraris and other cars I don't know off hand (look like can am types) like Chapparels etc. Catch it if you can.<br>> Boyd<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> <br>> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> DeTomaso@poca.com<mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com><br>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> --<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Michael L. Shortt<br>> Savannah, Georgia<br>> www.michaelshortt.com<http://www.michaelshortt.com><br>> michael@michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com><br>> 912-232-9390<br>> <br>> <br>> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy<br>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally<br>> privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified<br>> that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this<br>> communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you<br>> have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140108/67dc2fda/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 22<br>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 09:51:22 -0800<br>> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com><br>> To: Larry - Ohio Time Corp. <larry@ohiotimecorp.com>,<br>> "michael@michaelshortt.com" <michael@michaelshortt.com>, 'Boyd Casey'<br>> <boyd411@gmail.com><br>> Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> Message-ID: <BAY173-W2444786342025DBF62F4F295B10@phx.gbl><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br>> <br>> The best part of him is still around.... his Pantera :>)<br>> <br>> From: Larry@ohiotimecorp.com<br>> To: michael@michaelshortt.com; boyd411@gmail.com<br>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:43:46 -0500<br>> CC: detomaso@poca.com<br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Elvis has left the planet<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Larry (blue blue..) ?<br>> Cleveland<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> From: DeTomaso<br>> [mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com] On Behalf<br>> Of michael@michaelshortt.com<br>> <br>> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014<br>> 12:31 PM<br>> <br>> To: Boyd Casey<br>> <br>> Cc: detomaso@poca.com<br>> <br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Thank you...Thank you very much....<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> You know somebody would say it<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Michael<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411@gmail.com><br>> wrote:<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Today is Elvis Presleys 79th birthday and Turner movie classics is<br>> showing "Spinout" What a great selection of old Cobras, Jags, Vettes,<br>> Ferraris and other cars I don't know off hand (look like can am types) like<br>> Chapparels etc. Catch it if you can.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Boyd<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> <br>> DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> <br>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Michael L. Shortt<br>> <br>> Savannah, Georgia<br>> <br>> www.michaelshortt.com<br>> <br>> michael@michaelshortt.com<br>> <br>> 912-232-9390<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy<br>> <br>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally<br>> <br>> privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby<br>> notified<br>> <br>> that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this<br>> <br>> communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you<br>> <br>> have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> <br>> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140108/d2df5ca8/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 23<br>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 17:53:51 +0000<br>> From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov><br>> To: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp." <Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>,<br>> "michael@michaelshortt.com" <michael@michaelshortt.com>, "'Boyd<br>> Casey'" <boyd411@gmail.com><br>> Cc: "detomaso@poca.com" <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> Message-ID: <CEF2D07D.4CD66%thimes@jpl.nasa.gov><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br>> <br>> We are currently looking for him on Mars. Along with all the socks I lost in my dryer. ;-)<br>> <br>> <br>> Terry W. Himes<br>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory<br>> Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead<br>> Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead<br>> Phone: (818) 393-6261<br>> Cell: (818) 653-8213<br>> Fax: (818) 393-3147<br>> thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov><br>> <br>> <br>> From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp." <Larry@ohiotimecorp.com<mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>><br>> Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:43 AM<br>> To: "michael@michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com>" <michael@michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com>>, 'Boyd Casey' <boyd411@gmail.com<mailto:boyd411@gmail.com>><br>> Cc: "detomaso@poca.com<mailto:detomaso@poca.com>" <detomaso@poca.com<mailto:detomaso@poca.com>><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> <br>> Elvis has left the planet<br>> <br>> <br>> Larry (blue blue..) ? Cleveland<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com] On Behalf Of michael@michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com><br>> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:31 PM<br>> To: Boyd Casey<br>> Cc: detomaso@poca.com<mailto:detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> <br>> Thank you...Thank you very much....<br>> <br>> <br>> You know somebody would say it<br>> <br>> <br>> Michael<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411@gmail.com<mailto:boyd411@gmail.com>> wrote:<br>> Today is Elvis Presleys 79th birthday and Turner movie classics is showing "Spinout" What a great selection of old Cobras, Jags, Vettes, Ferraris and other cars I don't know off hand (look like can am types) like Chapparels etc. Catch it if you can.<br>> Boyd<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> <br>> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> DeTomaso@poca.com<mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com><br>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> --<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Michael L. Shortt<br>> Savannah, Georgia<br>> www.michaelshortt.com<http://www.michaelshortt.com><br>> michael@michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com><br>> 912-232-9390<br>> <br>> <br>> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy<br>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally<br>> privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified<br>> that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this<br>> communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you<br>> have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140108/3b0247b0/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 24<br>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:53:32 -0500<br>> From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" <michael@michaelshortt.com><br>> To: Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com><br>> Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso@poca.com><br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CAEWtxWoysVcrrDqPArXc6nf--yXjpB=oBvtYGX5MdH21b3oULw@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br>> <br>> He's still here, saw him last summer, and still making more money every day<br>> than I do working all year.<br>> <br>> Michael<br>> <br>> <br>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com>wrote:<br>> <br>> > The best part of him is still around.... his Pantera :>)<br>> ><br>> > ------------------------------<br>> > From: Larry@ohiotimecorp.com<br>> > To: michael@michaelshortt.com; boyd411@gmail.com<br>> > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:43:46 -0500<br>> > CC: detomaso@poca.com<br>> ><br>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> ><br>> > Elvis has left the planet<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Larry (blue blue..) ? Cleveland<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > *From:* DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com] *On Behalf Of *<br>> > michael@michaelshortt.com<br>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:31 PM<br>> > *To:* Boyd Casey<br>> > *Cc:* detomaso@poca.com<br>> > *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Thank you...Thank you very much....<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > You know somebody would say it<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Michael<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Today is Elvis Presleys 79th birthday and Turner movie classics is showing<br>> > "Spinout" What a great selection of old Cobras, Jags, Vettes, Ferraris and<br>> > other cars I don't know off hand (look like can am types) like Chapparels<br>> > etc. Catch it if you can.<br>> ><br>> > Boyd<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> ><br>> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> ><br>> > DeTomaso mailing list<br>> > DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > --<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Michael L. Shortt<br>> > Savannah, Georgia<br>> > www.michaelshortt.com<br>> > michael@michaelshortt.com<br>> > 912-232-9390<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy<br>> > Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally<br>> > privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified<br>> > that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this<br>> > communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you<br>> > have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum Managed by<br>> > POCA DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@poca.com<br>> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Michael L. Shortt<br>> Savannah, Georgia<br>> www.michaelshortt.com<br>> michael@michaelshortt.com<br>> 912-232-9390<br>> <br>> <br>> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy<br>> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally<br>> privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified<br>> that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this<br>> communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you<br>> have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140108/9fccb375/attachment-0001.html><br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>> Name: IMG_2122.JPG<br>> Type: image/jpeg<br>> Size: 314475 bytes<br>> Desc: not available<br>> URL: <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20140108/9fccb375/attachment-0001.jpe><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 25<br>> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 10:35:47 -0800<br>> From: dave londry <davel@emspace.com><br>> To: detomaso@poca.com<br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> Message-ID: <52CD9A83.2050200@emspace.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed<br>> <br>> I was wondering what you Deep Impact guys were doing after you finished <br>> beating up 9P.<br>> dave<br>> <br>> On 08/01/2014 9:53 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote:<br>> > We are currently looking for him on Mars. Along with all the socks I <br>> > lost in my dryer. ;-)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > *Terry W. Himes*<br>> ><br>> > *JPL**Jet Propulsion Laboratory*<br>> ><br>> > *Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead*<br>> ><br>> > *Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead*<br>> ><br>> > Phone: (818) 393-6261<br>> ><br>> > Cell: (818) 653-8213<br>> ><br>> > Fax: (818) 393-3147<br>> ><br>> > *thimes@jpl.nasa.gov <mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov>*<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp." <Larry@ohiotimecorp.com <br>> > <mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>><br>> > Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:43 AM<br>> > To: "michael@michaelshortt.com <mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com>" <br>> > <michael@michaelshortt.com <mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com>>, 'Boyd <br>> > Casey' <boyd411@gmail.com <mailto:boyd411@gmail.com>><br>> > Cc: "detomaso@poca.com <mailto:detomaso@poca.com>" <detomaso@poca.com <br>> > <mailto:detomaso@poca.com>><br>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> ><br>> > Elvis has left the planet<br>> ><br>> > Larry (blue blue..) ? Cleveland<br>> ><br>> > *From:*DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com] *On Behalf Of <br>> > *michael@michaelshortt.com <mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com><br>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:31 PM<br>> > *To:* Boyd Casey<br>> > *Cc:* detomaso@poca.com <mailto:detomaso@poca.com><br>> > *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] NPC<br>> ><br>> > Thank you...Thank you very much....<br>> ><br>> > You know somebody would say it<br>> ><br>> > Michael<br>> ><br>> > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411@gmail.com <br>> > <mailto:boyd411@gmail.com>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Today is Elvis Presleys 79th birthday and Turner movie classics is <br>> > showing "Spinout" What a great selection of old Cobras, Jags, Vettes, <br>> > Ferraris and other cars I don't know off hand (look like can am types) <br>> > like Chapparels etc. Catch it if you can.<br>> ><br>> > Boyd<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> ><br>> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> ><br>> > DeTomaso mailing list<br>> > DeTomaso@poca.com <mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com><br>> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > -- <br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Michael L. Shortt<br>> > Savannah, Georgia<br>> > www.michaelshortt.com <http://www.michaelshortt.com><br>> > michael@michaelshortt.com <mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com><br>> > 912-232-9390<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy<br>> > Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally<br>> > privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified<br>> > that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this<br>> > communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you<br>> > have received this message in error, then delete it. 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