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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> DeTomaso
[mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Bill Lewis<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 19, 2013
10:41 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> detomaso@poca.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DeTomaso] advice on
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>My wife and I drove our Pantera
from <st1:City w:st="on">Houston</st1:City> to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Phoenix</st1:place></st1:City> two years ago, with no complaints
about comfort - I am in my early 70's, and my wife is no spring chicken!!
----BILL Lewis<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>To: terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov; demongusta@me.com;
lashdeep@yahoo.com<br>
From: jderyke@aol.com<br>
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 16:32:30 -0500<br>
CC: DeTomaso@poca.com<br>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] advice on seats<br>
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</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Has anyone else noticed that all those available
Corvette seats ARE available partly because the GM owners found other seats
that were more comfortable or more attractive? One man's treat is another's
poison....I personally find stock early Pantera seats, lightly modified and
repadded to be light (for non-racing seats), comfortable on 8-hr drives for
both tall and short drivers, and attractive. Plus, they fit the car. Elimination
of the firewall bubble can not practically be done only with seat changes. But
total bubble elimination CAN be done at fairly low cost, as a few of us have
found. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: Himes, Terry (397C) (397C) <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
To: John Donahue <demongusta@me.com>; LS <lashdeep@yahoo.com><br>
Cc: DeTomaso <DeTomaso@poca.com><br>
Sent: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 8:18 am<br>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] advice on seats<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>I have the Corvette C4
(74 I think) seats and passenger seat does not miss the bubble. Plus the
shoddy work done on re-upholstery and they are<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>NOT that comfortable.
I, personally, would not go that direction again. I would like to
go Recaro myself.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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href="mailto:demongusta@me.com">demongusta@me.com</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Date: </span></b>Tuesday, December 17, 2013
8:11 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To: </span></b>LS <<a
href="mailto:lashdeep@yahoo.com">lashdeep@yahoo.com</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc: </span></b>"<a
href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a>" <<a
href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject: </span></b>Re: [DeTomaso] advice on
seats<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>In all the "seat
talk" - do any/all allow the passenger seat to miss the "bubble"
and go all the way back? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Chris,
I would suggest getting your Recaros recovered. You already have them and you
know they fit.<br>
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They are one of the best seats out there.<br>
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I have black Momo race seats in my car since the original standard seats were torture
devices. Also, Momo was an original supplier to Detomaso and that was part of
the decision.<br>
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Fiero or Corvette seats in a Pantera? Sounds interesting but heavy...<br>
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LS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Christopher Kimball
<<a href="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com">chrisvkimball@msn.com</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Will Kooiman <<a
href="mailto:will.kooiman@gmail.com">will.kooiman@gmail.com</a>>; Ken Green
<<a href="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com">kenn_green@yahoo.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Pantera list serve <<a
href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 15, 2013
11:45 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DeTomaso] advice on
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seen that brand before--I might check them out. But I really like the way
the Recaros feel. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Re: [DeTomaso] advice on seats<br>
From: <a href="mailto:will.kooiman@gmail.com">will.kooiman@gmail.com</a><br>
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 23:39:50 -0500<br>
CC: <a href="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com">chrisvkimball@msn.com</a>; <a
href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com">kenn_green@yahoo.com</a><br>
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Find a dealer that has Corbeau seats. Try an LG-1. I haven't driven
my car with these seats yet, but they fit the car nicely, and they were
comfortable at the shop. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>I
mounted mine to the floor with Porsche 911 mounts. The Porsche has a flat
floor pan, similar to a Pantera.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Dec 15, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Ken Green <<a href="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com"
shape=rect>kenn_green@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I
bought a pair of Sparco Milano seats covered in a fake suede (Alcantara?)
material and they fit me really well, but I had to remove the parking brake
handle to make enough room for the passenger seat.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I think
a good upholstery shop can replace the padding when they recover the seats, and
inspect the frames. That seems like the best option.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Christopher Kimball <<a
href="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com" shape=rect>chrisvkimball@msn.com</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Pantera list serve <<a
href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com" shape=rect>detomaso@poca.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 15, 2013
10:44 AM<br>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>In the next 6
months or so I'm hoping to make some changes in Pandora's seats, and I need
some sage advice.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The seats in
her now are Recaros--the kind that have the lower section that can pull in or
out for more leg support. They are really comfortable, and the only
improvement as far as how they feel would be a little more lumbar support.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Nevertheless,
the cloth on the seats is starting to look worn. I was planning on having
them recovered in leather, with suede down the middle, and when I checked the
pricing for that to be done (a year or two ago) I think it was going to cost
between $1200 and $1400. The seats are probably from the '80's, and I'm
afraid getting them recovered might be tantamount to putting new wine in old
wineskins, as it were. For all I know, the foam might be just about to
collapse, or the frame just about to wear out.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>So, here's
the question: Should I pay the money to get the current seats recovered,
or sell them and use the money towards new Recaros. I looked at some
Recaros on-line, and the prices astounded me--over $3,000 each! Still, in
trying to save money, I don't want to throw good money after bad.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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