<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; "><div><div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">The flat firewall mod is easy too.</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Take off the old parts. Bolt in the new parts. And then the seat goes all the way back. It even looks like the factory did it.</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">The only difficult part is dealing with the A/C compressor. If you have working A/C you probably don't want to open the lines, so you are fiddling with a compressor in a tight space with the lines pushing the compressor around.</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">And there's the part about the v-belt. I didn't want to use the short belt that doesn't use an idler, so I bought an idler from Dennis and that uses a slightly longer belt. It was an easy mod, but it meant another phone call and waiting on the idler.</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; ">--</span></div><div><div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; ">Will</span></div></div></div></div></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Mike Drew <<a href="mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com">MikeLDrew@aol.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:16 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> John Donahue <<a href="mailto:demongusta@me.com">demongusta@me.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> "<a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [DeTomaso] advice on seats<br></div><div><br></div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto"><div>In a word--no. For that you need a flat firewall kit. </div><div><br></div><div>Dennis Quella used to open up Recaros and heat/bend the tube frame to allow more clearance to the hump, but it's not as effective as the flat firewall mod....</div><div><br></div><div>Mike<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Dec 17, 2013, at 20:11, John Donahue <<a href="mailto:demongusta@me.com">demongusta@me.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>In all the "seat talk" - do any/all allow the passenger seat to miss the "bubble" and go all the way back? </div><div>Jack</div><div>4348</div><div><br>On Dec 17, 2013, at 6:04 PM, LS <<a href="mailto:lashdeep@yahoo.com">lashdeep@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div id="yiv1568495369"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">Chris, I would suggest getting your Recaros recovered. 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#yiv1568495369 </style><div><div dir="ltr">I've seen that brand before--I might check them out. But I really like the way the Recaros feel.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Chris<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><div class="yiv1568495369yqt1848251858" id="yiv1568495369yqtfd03735"><hr id="yiv1568495369stopSpelling">Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] advice on seats<br clear="none">From: <a href="mailto:will.kooiman@gmail.com">will.kooiman@gmail.com</a><br clear="none">Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 23:39:50 -0500<br clear="none">CC: <a href="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com">chrisvkimball@msn.com</a>; <a href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a><br clear="none">To: <a href="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com">kenn_green@yahoo.com</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Find a dealer that has Corbeau seats. Try an LG-1. I haven't driven my car with these seats yet, but they fit the car nicely, and they were comfortable at the shop.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I mounted mine to the floor with Porsche 911 mounts. The Porsche has a flat floor pan, similar to a Pantera.<br clear="none"><div><div><br clear="none"><div><div>On Dec 15, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Ken Green <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com">kenn_green@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="yiv1568495369ecxApple-interchange-newline" clear="none"><blockquote><div><div class="yiv1568495369yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1387218589284_9532" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span></span></div><div>I bought a pair of Sparco Milano seats covered in a fake suede (Alcantara?) material and they fit me really well, but I had to remove the parking brake handle to make enough room for the passenger seat.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I think a good upholstery shop can replace the padding when they recover the seats, and inspect the frames. That seems like the best option.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Ken<br clear="none"></div> <div class="yiv1568495369yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1387218589284_9533" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div class="yiv1568495369yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1387218589284_9534" style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="yiv1568495369hr" style="padding:0px;border:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);height:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px;"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Christopher Kimball <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com">chrisvkimball@msn.com</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Pantera list serve <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:detomaso@poca.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
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#yiv1568495369 </style><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Everyone,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>In the next 6 months or so I'm hoping to make some changes in Pandora's seats, and I need some sage advice.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>The seats in her now are Recaros--the kind that have the lower section that can pull in or out for more leg support. They are really comfortable, and the only improvement as far as how they feel would be a little more lumbar support.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Nevertheless, the cloth on the seats is starting to look worn. I was planning on having them recovered in leather, with suede down the middle, and when I checked the pricing for that to be done (a year or two ago) I think it was going to cost between $1200 and $1400. The seats are probably from the '80's, and I'm afraid getting them recovered might be tantamount to putting new wine in old wineskins, as it were. For all I know, the foam might be just about
to collapse, or the frame just about to
wear out.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>So, here's the question: Should I pay the money to get the current seats recovered, or sell them and use the money towards new Recaros. I looked at some Recaros on-line, and the prices astounded me--over $3,000 each! Still, in trying to save money, I don't want to throw good money after bad.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Opinions will be appreciated.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Chris</div> </div></div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br clear="none"><br clear="none">DeTomaso mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br clear="none"><br clear="none">DeTomaso mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><br clear="none"><a href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><br clear="none"></blockquote></div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv1568495369yqt1848251858" id="yiv1568495369yqtfd91399"> </div></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv1568495369yqt1848251858" id="yiv1568495369yqtfd37536">_______________________________________________<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br clear="none"><br clear="none">DeTomaso mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span>Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA</span><br><span></span><br><span>DeTomaso mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a></span><br><span><a href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span>Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA</span><br><span></span><br><span>DeTomaso mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a></span><br><span><a href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________
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