<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt">Are these the seats? <br><br>http://justcorvettes.net/news/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/DSC01130.jpg<br><br>They are excellent. What do they weigh?<br><br>Maybe lighter than stock but still heavier than a race seat.<br><br>I'm always trying to cut weight whenever possible and/or return things to the way the factory would've done it.<br><br>LS<br><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div><span class="yui_3_2_0_2_132994546520443" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-style:italic;font-family:symbol;"><br><br><br></span><span style="font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-size:10pt;"><div><font size="6"><span style="font-size:14pt;"><i><span style="color:#000000;"><b>central </b></span></i></span></font></div><div><i><b>wines-spirits est
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#yiv1119308067 </style><div><div class="yiv1119308067WordSection1"><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Actually, the C4 Corvette seats have a plastic or fiberglass (big surprise) shell, and are probably half the weight of my original Pantera seats. Very comfortable, but would prefer slightly firmer foam, ala Recaro.</span></div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Mike Thomas</span></div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1119308067yqt9098185333" id="yiv1119308067yqt41820"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>LS<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:05 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Christopher Kimball; Will Kooiman; Ken Green<br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> Pantera list serve<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DeTomaso] advice on seats</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal"> </div><div><div id="yiv1119308067"><div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Chris, I would suggest getting your Recaros recovered. You already have them and you know they fit.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">They are one of the best seats out there.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I have black Momo race seats in my car since the original standard seats were torture devices. Also, Momo was an original supplier to Detomaso and that was part of the decision.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Fiero or Corvette seats in a Pantera? Sounds interesting but heavy...<br clear="none"><br
clear="none">LS</span></div><div id="yiv1119308067yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1387218589284_8"><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1119308067yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1387218589284_10"><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1119308067yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1387218589284_12"><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><i><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:black;background:white;"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span></i><span style=""></span></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt;">central </span></i></b><span style=""></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><i><span style="">wines-spirits est 1934</span></i></b><span
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id="yiv1119308067yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1387218589284_9598"><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1119308067yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1387218589284_21"><div><div id="yiv1119308067yqt94903"><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span style=""></span><hr align="center" size="1" width="100%"></div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Christopher Kimball <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com">chrisvkimball@msn.com</a>><br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Will Kooiman <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:will.kooiman@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:will.kooiman@gmail.com">will.kooiman@gmail.com</a>>; Ken Green <<a
rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com">kenn_green@yahoo.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> Pantera list serve <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:detomaso@poca.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:45 PM<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DeTomaso] advice on seats</span><span style=""></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div><div id="yiv1119308067"><div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">I've seen that brand before--I might check them out. But I really like the way the Recaros feel.</span></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div
class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="">Chris</span></div><div><div id="yiv1119308067yqtfd03735"><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span style=""></span><hr id="yiv1119308067stopSpelling" align="center" size="3" width="100%"></div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] advice on seats<br clear="none">From: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:will.kooiman@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:will.kooiman@gmail.com">will.kooiman@gmail.com</a><br clear="none">Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 23:39:50 -0500<br clear="none">CC: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com">chrisvkimball@msn.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:detomaso@poca.com" target="_blank"
href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a><br clear="none">To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com">kenn_green@yahoo.com</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Find a dealer that has Corbeau seats. Try an LG-1. I haven't driven my car with these seats yet, but they fit the car nicely, and they were comfortable at the shop.</span></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">I mounted mine to the floor with Porsche 911 mounts. The Porsche has a flat floor pan, similar to a Pantera.</span></div><div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div><div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">On Dec 15,
2013, at 6:58 PM, Ken Green <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com">kenn_green@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">I bought a pair of Sparco Milano seats covered in a fake suede (Alcantara?) material and they fit me really well, but I had to remove the parking brake handle to make enough room for the passenger seat.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">I think a good upholstery shop can replace the padding when they recover the seats, and inspect the
frames. That seems like the best option.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Ken</span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Christopher Kimball <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com">chrisvkimball@msn.com</a>><br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Pantera list serve <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:detomaso@poca.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:44 AM<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> [DeTomaso] advice on seats</span><span
style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div><div id="yiv1119308067ecxyiv8555837994"><div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Hi Everyone,</span></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">In the next 6 months or so I'm hoping to make some changes in Pandora's seats, and I need some sage advice.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">The seats in her now are Recaros--the kind that have the lower section that can pull in or out
for more leg support. They are really comfortable, and the only improvement as far as how they feel would be a little more lumbar support.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Nevertheless, the cloth on the seats is starting to look worn. I was planning on having them recovered in leather, with suede down the middle, and when I checked the pricing for that to be done (a year or two ago) I think it was going to cost between $1200 and $1400. The seats are probably from the '80's, and I'm afraid getting them recovered might be tantamount to putting new wine in old wineskins, as it were. For all I know, the foam might be just about to collapse, or the frame just about to wear out.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">So, here's the question: Should I pay the money to get the current seats recovered, or sell them and use the money towards new Recaros. I looked at some Recaros on-line, and the prices astounded me--over $3,000 each! Still, in trying to save money, I don't want to throw good money after bad.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Opinions will be appreciated.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
style="color:black;">Thanks!</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Chris</span></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv1119308067MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="color:black;"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br clear="none"><br clear="none">DeTomaso mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><br clear="none"><br
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