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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Jack, Can you outline what is involved with total bubble elimination ? Basically, how is it accomplished ? <br> <BR><div><hr id="stopSpelling">To: terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov; demongusta@me.com; lashdeep@yahoo.com<br>From: jderyke@aol.com<br>Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 16:32:30 -0500<br>CC: DeTomaso@poca.com<br>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] advice on seats<br><br><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">H<font size="2">as anyone else noticed that all those available Corvette seats ARE available partly because the GM owners found other seats that were more comfortable or more attractive? One man's treat is another's poison....I personally find stock early Pantera seats, lightly modified and repadded to be light (for non-racing seats), comfortable on 8-hr drives for both tall and short drivers, and attractive. Plus, they fit the car. Elimination of the firewall bubble can not practically be done only with seat changes. But total bubble elimination CAN be done at fairly low cost, as a few of us have found. </font>
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From: Himes, Terry (397C) (397C) <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
To: John Donahue <demongusta@me.com>; LS <lashdeep@yahoo.com><br>
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<div>I have the Corvette C4 (74 I think) seats and passenger seat does not miss the bubble. Plus the shoddy work done on re-upholstery and they are</div>
<div>NOT that comfortable. I, personally, would not go that direction again. I would like to go Recaro myself.</div>
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">To: </span>LS <<a href="mailto:lashdeep@yahoo.com">lashdeep@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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<div>In all the "seat talk" - do any/all allow the passenger seat to miss the "bubble" and go all the way back? </div>
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Chris, I would suggest getting your Recaros recovered. You already have them and you know they fit.<br clear="none">
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I have black Momo race seats in my car since the original standard seats were torture devices. Also, Momo was an original supplier to Detomaso and that was part of the decision.<br>
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Fiero or Corvette seats in a Pantera? Sounds interesting but heavy...<br>
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<font face="Arial" size="2"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Christopher Kimball <<a href="mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com">chrisvkimball@msn.com</a>><br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">I've seen that brand before--I might check them out. But I really like the way the Recaros feel.
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Find a dealer that has Corbeau seats. Try an LG-1. I haven't driven my car with these seats yet, but they fit the car nicely, and they were comfortable at the shop.
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<div>I mounted mine to the floor with Porsche 911 mounts. The Porsche has a flat floor pan, similar to a Pantera.<br clear="none">
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<div>I bought a pair of Sparco Milano seats covered in a fake suede (Alcantara?) material and they fit me really well, but I had to remove the parking brake handle to make enough room for the passenger seat.</div>
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<div>I think a good upholstery shop can replace the padding when they recover the seats, and inspect the frames. That seems like the best option.</div>
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<div>In the next 6 months or so I'm hoping to make some changes in Pandora's seats, and I need some sage advice.</div>
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<div>The seats in her now are Recaros--the kind that have the lower section that can pull in or out for more leg support. They are really comfortable, and the only improvement as far as how they feel would be a little more lumbar support.</div>
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<div>Nevertheless, the cloth on the seats is starting to look worn. I was planning on having them recovered in leather, with suede down the middle, and when I checked the pricing for that to be done (a year or two ago) I think it was going to cost between
$1200 and $1400. The seats are probably from the '80's, and I'm afraid getting them recovered might be tantamount to putting new wine in old wineskins, as it were. For all I know, the foam might be just about to collapse, or the frame just about to wear
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<div>So, here's the question: Should I pay the money to get the current seats recovered, or sell them and use the money towards new Recaros. I looked at some Recaros on-line, and the prices astounded me--over $3,000 each! Still, in trying to save money,
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