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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#37424A'>$175K would be a reasonable estimation, I’d think. That would be more or less my guess, I think, although a motived buyer or seller could raise or lower that price. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#37424A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#37424A'>I don’t think that Franz’s car would be a good example. When I talked to him he said that he wasn’t planning on selling it but that they basically offered him twice what he paid because they wanted THAT car, so he accepted. He then had to sell it in a hurry and was willing to take a loss. (why doesn’t that kind of thing ever happen with anything I try to buy or sell?)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#37424A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#37424A'>They are two data points, but each had extenuating circumstances. And perhaps demonstrate that a motivated buyer or seller could skew the price<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#37424A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#37424A'>Charles McCall<br>Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe<br>1985 DeTomaso Pantera #9375<br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#37424A'><a href="http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323" target="_blank"><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0091D7'>http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#37424A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#37424A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> lunes, 16 de diciembre de 2013 21:36<br><b>To:</b> Charles McCall; '\"Jürgen M. Wilms\"'; De Tomaso List<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [DeTomaso] Market price for a very good Pantera si?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>There has been some similar conversation on the PI forum very recently i.e. last few days, my estimate was north of US$200K given that franz Krump's Si sold in 2010 for EU170K and recent GT5S prices. That was shot down by others as apparently a) Franz repurchased the car for half of what he sold it for and b) the Si market is a very limited by the fact that they are not (yet) admissible to the US. All that said I'd still stand behind a US$175K plus number.<br> <br><a href="http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2290052674/m/5931037056?r=7851047056#7851047056">http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2290052674/m/5931037056?r=7851047056#7851047056</a><br> <br>Julian<br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>> From: <a href="mailto:charlesmccall@gmail.com">charlesmccall@gmail.com</a><br>> To: <a href="mailto:juergen.wilms@cox.net">juergen.wilms@cox.net</a>; <a href="mailto:detomaso@POCA.com">detomaso@POCA.com</a><br>> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:11:21 +0100<br>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Market price for a very good Pantera si?<br>> <br>> I would be curious to know what people say, if anything. <br>> <br>> There have been very few that have changed hands in the past few years, so<br>> it is hard to talk about "market price". <br>> <br>> Panteras in general have gone up in price a LOT lately, so it would be<br>> interesting to see what a Pantera Si sells for. I would think that it would<br>> sell for whatever the previous owner and future owner are willing to accept<br>> - I am not sure if there are sufficient data points to make sales<br>> relevant..<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Charles McCall<br>> Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe<br>> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera #9375<br>> <a href="http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323">http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323</a><br>> <br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: DeTomaso [<a href="mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com">mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com</a>] On Behalf Of "Jürgen M.<br>> Wilms"<br>> Sent: lunes, 16 de diciembre de 2013 20:49<br>> To: <a href="mailto:detomaso@POCA.com">detomaso@POCA.com</a><br>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Market price for a very good Pantera si?<br>> <br>> I am in a Pantera si and have been alerted to a low-mileage, original, car.<br>> What does everyone here think is the current market value for a very good<br>> Pantera 5si ?<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> <br>> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><br>> <a href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br>> <br>> DeTomaso mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><br>> <a href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>