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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Gray Gregory
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Jack Donahue'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes the infamous Gurney bubble! I have copied him and installed one on my B16 so I can fit… Brilliant!!!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Jack Donahue [mailto:demongusta@me.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gray Gregory<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The GT40 that Gurney drove had a bubble in the roof so he could fit into it. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 10, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Gray Gregory wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Gray
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>'<a href="mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com">michael@michaelshortt.com</a>'<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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a lot of old F1 cars and I haven’t found one yet I can fit into very well, so the cars weren’t very big either. :>)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">DeTomaso
[mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com">michael@michaelshortt.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>LS<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jderyke@aol.com">jderyke@aol.com</a>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:pantera@austin.rr.com">pantera@austin.rr.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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New drivers are world class athletes. NASCAR drivers are sometimes world class athletes with baby bumps.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"<a href="mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com" target="_blank">michael@michaelshortt.com</a>"
<<a href="mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com" target="_blank">michael@michaelshortt.com</a>><br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>mark skwarek <<a href="mailto:ehpantera@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ehpantera@yahoo.com</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>"<a href="mailto:jderyke@aol.com" target="_blank">jderyke@aol.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:jderyke@aol.com" target="_blank">jderyke@aol.com</a>>; "<a href="mailto:lashdeep@yahoo.com" target="_blank">lashdeep@yahoo.com</a>"
<<a href="mailto:lashdeep@yahoo.com" target="_blank">lashdeep@yahoo.com</a>>; "<a href="mailto:pantera@austin.rr.com" target="_blank">pantera@austin.rr.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:pantera@austin.rr.com" target="_blank">pantera@austin.rr.com</a>>; "<a href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com" target="_blank">detomaso@poca.com</a>"
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, December 9, 2013 8:48 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On Monday, December 9, 2013 6:15 PM, "<a href="mailto:jderyke@aol.com" target="_blank">jderyke@aol.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:jderyke@aol.com" target="_blank">jderyke@aol.com</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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all women. Things must have changed.... Wish I'd been there, but at 6"2 and 190 lbs I have no illusions I'd fit today, either! Cheers to you in S. TX- J Deryke</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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From: LS <<a href="mailto:lashdeep@yahoo.com" target="_blank">lashdeep@yahoo.com</a>><br>
To: Richard Greenblum <<a href="mailto:pantera@austin.rr.com" target="_blank">pantera@austin.rr.com</a>>; deTomaso Forum <<a href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com" target="_blank">detomaso@poca.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[DeTomaso] F1 Experience</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">I was very surprised that no one from Houston, or anywhere else in Texas, was signed up to ride in the F1 cars on Friday at COTA (the Austin F1 track). Of if you were, I just didn't recognize
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