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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Jack,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Yes, they both list mechanical Cleveland pumps on their websites, but they are the of the standard plain vanilla stock type. Fine for most uses, but their gph is too modest for the planned engine. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@poca.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>jderyke@aol.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 08, 2013 3:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> DtomasoCat@aol.com; detomaso@poca.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DeTomaso] Cleveland Fuel Pumps<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 2.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre><tt><span style='color:black'>.........My Google search shows that the only mechanical pump for a<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre><tt><span style='color:black'>Cleveland engine is from Robb Mc Performance. They offer two quality <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre><tt><span style='color:black'>units.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre><tt><span style='color:black'>One supports 1100 hp and is $300! The other for lesser racers supports <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre><tt><span style='color:black'>550<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre><tt><span style='color:black'>hp and is only $200.</span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Google is not quite omniscent yet. Both Summit and Jegs list a 351-C mechanical pump in their current catalogues. I haven't actually called to check their stock, though. And a certain stock Ford electric fuel pump can be installed in-tank with some craftsmanship. Running inside the tank as a pusher, vapor lock is a thing of the past and in-tank pumps run very quietly. I cannot say that about the two brands of external electric pumps I've used in the past though!. My Ford in-tank pump has been working for 7 years now and requires zero tank mods but some work on the stock sender. FWIW- J Deryke<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: DtomasoCat <<a href="mailto:DtomasoCat@aol.com">DtomasoCat@aol.com</a>><br>To: detomaso <<a href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a>><br>Sent: Sun, Dec 8, 2013 7:35 am<br>Subject: [DeTomaso] Cleveland Fuel Pumps<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_0_d2f91fbe-6408-4a54-9d6f-afcd22ba5f42"><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Dear Forum,<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>.........My Google search shows that the only mechanical pump for a<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Cleveland engine is from Robb Mc Performance. They offer two quality <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>units.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>One supports 1100 hp and is $300! The other for lesser racers supports <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>550<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>hp and is only $200. <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Unless there is an overlooked source or stock of unwanted and<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>unsold hipo Cleveland fuel pumps out there, I will shortly be ordering a<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>very serious fuel pump.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Warmest regards, Chuck Engles<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Chuck,<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>If you would like to consider a second option you might want to look into <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>an electric fuel pump. Simple to install and you don't need a huge pump <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>either (no matter what anyone says). I installed a standard "universal" <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>electric fuel pump many years ago that I purchased from Autozone for something <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>like $49. It is compact in size (less than 2" in diameter and 2" in <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>length) but feeds plenty of fuel. My engine dynoed at 540hp and it is run <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>quite <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>"spiritedly" and has no issues whatsoever with fuel starvation. Oh, the <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>pump is feeding a Demon 750 double pumper.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Your mileage will vary.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>DeTomaso mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com" target="_blank">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre></div></div></div></body></html>