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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The grease attracting grit is likely an issue,
since I went into the gravel on turn one at Willow Springs the week before. (I
gotta remember to warm up those 15" wide slicks before trying to set my best
time).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I'm going to R&R the whole shift linkage
assembly and clean it real good.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The biggest difference I see between Mike and
Mary's advice seems to be applying grease to the trunnion bearing. Since it's a
distinct possibility I might have another unintended off-road adventure I'll try
it first without grease.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Dan</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Dan Courtney<BR>24 Years of Excellent
Representation<BR>Excalibur Commercial Real Estate Services<BR>La Jolla,
CA<BR>(858) 551-5455 P<BR>(858) 551-5456 F</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jtaphorn@kingwoodcable.com
href="mailto:jtaphorn@kingwoodcable.com">John Taphorn</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:34 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=MikeLDrew@aol.com
href="mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com">MikeLDrew@aol.com</A> ; <A
title=dan@excaliburre.com
href="mailto:dan@excaliburre.com">dan@excaliburre.com</A> ; <A
title=detomaso@poca.com href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DeTomaso] Shifter fix</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>My experience with improving stiff shifter movement is different
than the honorable and well intentioned Mr. Drew.<BR><BR>1) It is easy to remove
the shifter assembly from the car. Do so, disassemble it, clean and
reassemble with lightweight engine assembly lube. 00 weight I think. I
disagree with Mike regarding removal of the centering spring as it presents no
problem to shifting when properly lubricated. You will be surprised at how
much dirt has collected in the rather protected area. That and hardened grease
are the enemy, not the spring and centering detent. On many cars, the dirt
acting as a grit has grooved the surface that the detent is supposed to glide
upon. If you are handy, you can repair this surface with sanding and
polishing. If you are incapable of the task, this is a circumstance where
removing the spring and detent may be a better solution. <BR><BR>2) The
biggest obstacle to smooth shaft movement is the collection of hardened grease
and dirt in the accordion gasket and on the shaft where the shaft passes through
the firewall. If you can clean that gasket out as well as the area of the
shaft that passes through it, you will be amazed at the improvement. Any
permanent lubrication added here will work for a limited time as it is such a
dirty environment. I recommend no lubrication or the occasional spray of
WD40 which will help keep the surface clean. This is my first go to spot
when someone complains of stiff shifting and it corrects most of the problem
almost every time.<BR><BR>3) Same approach with the trunion. No grease,
keep shifter shaft clean with occasional spray of WD40. Any lube will
attract dirt on the first drive and that will behave as sandpaper wearing the
bushing even faster. The WD40 acts as a cleaning agent before it
evaporates away and is not longer a dirt magnet.<BR><BR>Happy Thanksgiving<BR>J,
happy shifter, T<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On 11/28/2013 3:09 AM, <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com">MikeLDrew@aol.com</A> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:65044.1f643a79.3fc86239@aol.com type="cite"><FONT
face=arial,helvetica><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Geneva
family="SANSSERIF"><BR>In a message dated 11/27/13 10 41 3, <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:dan@excaliburre.com">dan@excaliburre.com</A>
writes:<BR><BR><BR></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"
cite="" type="CITE"><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial
family="SANSSERIF">At the track Sunday we removed the snap ring, the cover
plate and an extremely rusty and crusty spring. I thought that was the whole
assembly but now I see there's a cylinder at the bottom of the shaft. I'll
try and pry this up and out.</FONT><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Geneva
family="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#000000 size=2
face=Geneva family="SANSSERIF"><BR>>>>It's probably not acting much
on the system, but you might as well ditch it too.<BR><BR><BR></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"
cite="" type="CITE"><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial
family="SANSSERIF">> Between removing the spring and spraying WD 40 on
the trunnion bearing The Beast shifter much better, for about ten laps, then
went back to the stage where I'm having to force it into gear (mainly
2nd and 3rd).</FONT><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Geneva
family="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#000000 size=2
face=Geneva family="SANSSERIF"><BR>>>>WD40 is way, way too light for
this task. It wasn't even originally designed to be a lubricant; it's a
water displacement fluid (WD). Only secondarily did they discover that
it was pretty good at eliminating squeaks in door hinges and the
like.<BR><BR>But what you need is grease, not WD.<BR><BR></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"
cite="" type="CITE"><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial
family="SANSSERIF">> I was wondering if the gear oil was breaking down
due to heat. My next planned post was to ask for advice on gear
oil.</FONT><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Geneva
family="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#000000 size=2
face=Geneva family="SANSSERIF"><BR>>>>Not a chance.
:>)<BR><BR></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"
cite="" type="CITE"><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial
family="SANSSERIF">> I suppose it's also possible the WD-40 wore
out.</FONT><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Geneva
family="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#000000 size=2
face=Geneva family="SANSSERIF"><BR>>>>Really, it's the wrong tool for
the job. I use aerosol lithium grease, and it needs redoing every now
and again.<BR><BR></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"
cite="" type="CITE"><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial
family="SANSSERIF">> By the way, the "roval" at California Speedway is
perfect for Panteras. It consists of an infield course with all kinds of
turns and 1/2 the banked oval the NASCAR boys use. What a blast it was
running up that bank at 160+!</FONT><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Geneva
family="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#000000 size=2
face=Geneva family="SANSSERIF">>>>I've had a ride there as a
passenger--awesome!<BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR></FONT><BR>
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