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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes & if you look at the bottom of the page it shows the Robt,. Shaw Thermostat with the “Hat”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><img width=288 height=329 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image003.jpg@01CEE215.596142E0"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> thomas [mailto:thomas@hax.se] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> Pantdino<br><b>Cc:</b> MikeLDrew@aol.com; detomaso@poca.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DeTomaso] please look at this pic of a water pump and tell me if it has a bypass hole<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>15 nov 2013 kl. 02:37 skrev Pantdino <<a href="mailto:pantdino@aol.com">pantdino@aol.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I took the car over to Tommy and he says he uses an Edelbrock pump with a regular HATLESS thermostat. His logic is that he has been working on these cars for 30 yrs and this is what works for him. He did not have a pump on hand for me to see.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From what Jack said in the newsletter, my guess is that Tommy has been using a water pump without a bypass outlet, which would explain why he has had no ill effects from this.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Please look at this FlowKooler webpage to see if this pump has the bypass hole. (I don't see a photo of the inside of an Edelbrock pump on their website.)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>I have an Edelbrock pump and it certainly has a bypass.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://tinyurl.com/lkv4trx">http://tinyurl.com/lkv4trx</a></span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>This pump appears to have a bypass. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thomas<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Mike Drew <<a href="mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com">MikeLDrew@aol.com</a>><br>To: Pantdino <<a href="mailto:pantdino@aol.com">pantdino@aol.com</a>><br>Cc: detomaso <<a href="mailto:detomaso@poca.com">detomaso@poca.com</a>><br>Sent: Thu, Nov 14, 2013 10:20 am<br>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] do the OEM-type water pumps and thermostats even exist any more?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_1_7e5fb078-aa2c-49d4-8ec6-d1ec0e54045b"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jim,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I'm amazed to hear him say that. Almost every 351C water pump you can buy, from the $35 NAPA special to the $200 and up versions, shares the standard Ford architecture. There are loads of choices. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>351c thermostats are easy to buy too. I prefer the RobertShaw 333-180 from Flowkooler, but Stant etc make $7 wonders for the 351c. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I think you should just go direct to the Flowkooler website and order a standard (no need for polished or powdercoated) water pump and their thermostat. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>You could just install a normal cheap pump and thermostat if budget was an issue. But since nothing is wrong with your current setup, if you don't want to spring for the good stuff I would just leave it alone. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Mike<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>On Nov 14, 2013, at 9:56, Pantdino <<a href="mailto:pantdino@aol.com">pantdino@aol.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Tommy says that as far as he knows the OEM bypass-type pumps and thermostats are not even made any more<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>When was the last time someone installed a new water pump of the OEM style?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br><br>Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br><br>DeTomaso mailing list<br><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><br><a href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com" target="_blank">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>!DSPAM:52857aef269192322922530! <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br><br>Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA<br><br>DeTomaso mailing list<br><a href="mailto:DeTomaso@poca.com">DeTomaso@poca.com</a><br><a href="http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com">http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com</a><br><br><br>!DSPAM:52857aef269192322922530!<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>