[DeTomaso] Sv.: Re: Headlight issue

Cristiano Rossi thpnma02869 at yahoo.com
Mon May 20 11:59:01 EDT 2024 

Dear all
I need to replace the plastic gear for my headlights, and I have the following questions:
- According to TSB article 116, the first thing to do is to raise the headlamps. Is this necessary? The headlights are stuck in closed position, and it will probably not be easy to raise them. The manual knob does not turn, probably due to the broken plastic gear.
- To remove the 3 bolts retaining the headlight motor is easy for the 2 bolts forward of the radiator. The one rear of the radiator is very difficult for me to reach. Is this because the headlights are down, blocking the access, or must the third bolt be reached from underneath the car, after removing the left front wheel?
- Will I have to loosen the radiator bolts and move the radiator?
- It seems to me that it will be difficult to remove the 2 bolts retaining the forward limiter switch, they are SO tiny, isn’t it likely that they will break or not come off?
- I guess that when I have loosened everything needed, I must then pull out the headlight motor/gear assembly through the front wheel well, correct?
- Are there any tricks to install the bronze gear or is this easy to do, and are there other things I should be aware of?
Thank you in advance for any feedback. I normally don’t do such work, and I would possibly like to avoid making mistakes :-) 
Cristiano Rossithpnma02869


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Den torsdag, september 21, 2023, 20:29 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:

Larry,

It is absolutely untrue that the radiator has to be removed in order to remove the headlight mechanism.  I just did it successfully a few weeks ago in Chris Kimball’s car in Seattle. The headlights need to be raised and the headlight buckets propped up with a block of wood between the front edge of the body and the top of the fender. One limit switch needs to be removed from the plate, and all wires disconnected. Then remove the three 10mm (M5) bolts and it’s simple to withdraw the motor and gearbox through the access hole in the front edge of the front fender well.

Chris had a broken gear. But I think Jim has a limit switch problem because it fixed itself the next day. 

Mike



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> On Sep 21, 2023, at 10:22, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
> 
> Jim, First try to use the knuckle buster hand crank knob in tight with the left side top of the radiator. If it cranks and lowers the headlight, that's a good thing, because getting to the limit switch is an easier way to go. If it is jammed up, it is the plastic regulator gear that has cracked and needs replacing, just like the window regulators do with our Brass gear replacement. Unfortunately, you will need to drain and remove the radiator to get the back of the regulator. We have been trying to supply a new gear with each Radiator system we sell these days as they are due to fail.
> Larry Stock
> 
> On 9/21/23, 8:32 AM, "detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com <mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com>" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com <mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Last evening, I turned on my headlights (which I rarely do - maybe once
> per year). They came up and lit. turned the switch to off and the
> headlights turned off but did not recede.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> OK, a lot of places to look - manana (today).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Today, I urn the ignition on and - lights recede.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Before I go chasing what may be a non-repeatable issue, is this
> commonly an indication of one of the many components involved in the
> headlight operation that could be going bad - like maybe the relay?
> Everything in that circuit is original.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jim Kosloskey #6949 Yellow 1974 L
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   Dear all

   I need to replace the plastic gear for my headlights, and I have the
   following questions:

   - According to TSB article 116, the first thing to do is to raise the
   headlamps. Is this necessary? The headlights are stuck in closed
   position, and it will probably not be easy to raise them. The manual
   knob does not turn, probably due to the broken plastic gear.

   - To remove the 3 bolts retaining the headlight motor is easy for the 2
   bolts forward of the radiator. The one rear of the radiator is very
   difficult for me to reach. Is this because the headlights are down,
   blocking the access, or must the third bolt be reached from underneath
   the car, after removing the left front wheel?

   - Will I have to loosen the radiator bolts and move the radiator?

   - It seems to me that it will be difficult to remove the 2 bolts
   retaining the forward limiter switch, they are SO tiny, isnat it likely
   that they will break or not come off?

   - I guess that when I have loosened everything needed, I must then pull
   out the headlight motor/gear assembly through the front wheel well,
   correct?

   - Are there any tricks to install the bronze gear or is this easy to
   do, and are there other things I should be aware of?

   Thank you in advance for any feedback. I normally donat do such work,
   and I would possibly like to avoid making mistakes :-)

   Cristiano Rossi

   thpnma02869
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   Den torsdag, september 21, 2023, 20:29 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:

   Larry,
   It is absolutely untrue that the radiator has to be removed in order to
   remove the headlight mechanism.  I just did it successfully a few weeks
   ago in Chris Kimballas car in Seattle. The headlights need to be raised
   and the headlight buckets propped up with a block of wood between the
   front edge of the body and the top of the fender. One limit switch
   needs to be removed from the plate, and all wires disconnected. Then
   remove the three 10mm (M5) bolts and itas simple to withdraw the motor
   and gearbox through the access hole in the front edge of the front
   fender well.
   Chris had a broken gear. But I think Jim has a limit switch problem
   because it fixed itself the next day.
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   > On Sep 21, 2023, at 10:22, Larry Stock <[2]larrys at panteraparts.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > i>>?Jim, First try to use the knuckle buster hand crank knob in tight
   with the left side top of the radiator. If it cranks and lowers the
   headlight, that's a good thing, because getting to the limit switch is
   an easier way to go. If it is jammed up, it is the plastic regulator
   gear that has cracked and needs replacing, just like the window
   regulators do with our Brass gear replacement. Unfortunately, you will
   need to drain and remove the radiator to get the back of the regulator.
   We have been trying to supply a new gear with each Radiator system we
   sell these days as they are due to fail.
   > Larry Stock
   >
   > i>>?On 9/21/23, 8:32 AM, "detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   [3]jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com
   <mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com>"
   <[4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   [5]jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com
   <mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com>> wrote:
   >
   >
   > All,
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Last evening, I turned on my headlights (which I rarely do - maybe
   once
   > per year). They came up and lit. turned the switch to off and the
   > headlights turned off but did not recede.
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > OK, a lot of places to look - manana (today).
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Today, I urn the ignition on and - lights recede.
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Before I go chasing what may be a non-repeatable issue, is this
   > commonly an indication of one of the many components involved in the
   > headlight operation that could be going bad - like maybe the relay?
   > Everything in that circuit is original.
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Thank you,
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Jim Kosloskey #6949 Yellow 1974 L
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   >
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