[DeTomaso] Pantera Aviad pan

Tue Jun 11 16:53:41 EDT 2024

Hi Mike,
I agree on both methods.  They are of course a pain in the arse in either case.  No pun intended.

Larry Stock’s post indicated it should hold 9 but maybe he was referring to the Cleveland pan?

I have fixed this on a stock pan in another car with an aftermarket dipstick.  In that case the owner was overfilling just to get oil to show on the stick.  Then he was blowing oil all over when driving.  We drained and refilled with the correct number of quarts for a stock pan, then shortened the dipstick tube to a correct length.

In this case I have seven quarts in this pan, and the aftermarket dipstick shows way over the full line with the car on level concrete.  The stick is actually steel wire and not something I can easily cut and braze back together.

I would think a larger capacity pan should take more than five quarts, and seven seemed reasonable from checking Aviad’s site for that pan.

I’m mostly trying to verify at this point that seven is a correct amount with this pan before I’m forced into one of the other methods.

Thank you,
Asa  Jay

Sent via radio waves

> On Jun 11, 2024, at 13:10, Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> AJ,
> 
> I find it curious that they claim the Cleveland pan is 9 quarts while the nominally identical Windsor unit is only 7 quarts?
> 
> Life is made more difficult with an aftermarket dipstick setup.
> 
> The quality fix is to remove the pan, insert the dipstick and either verify that it is marked properly, or remark it as needed.
> 
> Then put that much oil in, however much it is, and remember that number.
> 
> If pulling the pan is too much effort, you can always just buy a standard 351W dipstick and tube and install that temporarily, fill the motor to the appropriate amount, then pull it and refit the custom Pantera setup and compare the results, and remark as needed.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2024, at 12:53, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    All,
>> 
>>  On this stroked Windsor is the following pan:
>> 
>>  [1]155-55367 SBFW PANTERA PAN W/S
>> 
>>  [2]Wet Sump Road Race Oil Pans (SBF 289/302 & 351W) at Replacement
>>  Parts | Page 3 of 3
>>  [3]aviaid.com
>>  [4][wFNi7tReOKIaAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==]
>> 
>>  Aviad claims it to be a 7-quart pan.  I know based on the shape that it
>>  should hold more than five.  However, does anyone here have experience
>>  with this pan? There is an aftermarket dipstick installed and I don't
>>  know if it's been calibrated properly.
>> 
>>  If you have this pan on a Windsor, how many quarts to Full on a stock
>>  dipstick?
>> 
>>  Thank you,
>> 
>>  Asa  Jay
>> 
>>  Sent via radio waves
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>  Visible links
>>  1. tel:155-55367
>>  2. https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf-ss3.html
>>  3. https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf-ss3.html
>>  4. https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf-ss3.html
>> 
>>  Hidden links:
>>  6. https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf-ss3.html
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   Hi Mike,

   I agree on both methods.  They are of course a pain in the arse in
   either case.  No pun intended.

   Larry Stock's post indicated it should hold 9 but maybe he was
   referring to the Cleveland pan?

   I have fixed this on a stock pan in another car with an aftermarket
   dipstick.  In that case the owner was overfilling just to get oil to
   show on the stick.  Then he was blowing oil all over when driving.  We
   drained and refilled with the correct number of quarts for a stock pan,
   then shortened the dipstick tube to a correct length.

   In this case I have seven quarts in this pan, and the aftermarket
   dipstick shows way over the full line with the car on level concrete.
   The stick is actually steel wire and not something I can easily cut and
   braze back together.

   I would think a larger capacity pan should take more than five quarts,
   and seven seemed reasonable from checking Aviad's site for that pan.

   I'm mostly trying to verify at this point that seven is a correct
   amount with this pan before I'm forced into one of the other methods.

   Thank you,

   Asa  Jay

   Sent via radio waves

     On Jun 11, 2024, at 13:10, Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:

   AJ,
   I find it curious that they claim the Cleveland pan is 9 quarts while
   the nominally identical Windsor unit is only 7 quarts?
   Life is made more difficult with an aftermarket dipstick setup.
   The quality fix is to remove the pan, insert the dipstick and either
   verify that it is marked properly, or remark it as needed.
   Then put that much oil in, however much it is, and remember that
   number.
   If pulling the pan is too much effort, you can always just buy a
   standard 351W dipstick and tube and install that temporarily, fill the
   motor to the appropriate amount, then pull it and refit the custom
   Pantera setup and compare the results, and remark as needed.
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad

     On Jun 11, 2024, at 12:53, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
     <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

       All,

      On this stroked Windsor is the following pan:

      [1]155-55367 SBFW PANTERA PAN W/S

      [2]Wet Sump Road Race Oil Pans (SBF 289/302 & 351W) at Replacement

      Parts | Page 3 of 3

      [3]aviaid.com

      [4][wFNi7tReOKIaAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==]

      Aviad claims it to be a 7-quart pan.  I know based on the shape
     that it

      should hold more than five.  However, does anyone here have
     experience

      with this pan? There is an aftermarket dipstick installed and I
     don't

      know if it's been calibrated properly.

      If you have this pan on a Windsor, how many quarts to Full on a
     stock

      dipstick?

      Thank you,

      Asa  Jay

      Sent via radio waves

     References

      Visible links

      1. tel:155-55367

      2. https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf-ss3.html

      3. https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf-ss3.html

      4. https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf-ss3.html

      Hidden links:

      6. https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf-ss3.html

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