[DeTomaso] WTB Pantera parts

[Ed Mendez]

Thanks 😊 

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> On Apr 8, 2024, at 22:02, Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:
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>> On Apr 9, 2024, at 00:17, Ed Mendez via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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>> Thanks, Mike, yes I was talking about the big throat. :-) So the PIM’s are decent? $599.00 new
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>>>> PIM headers are Big Throat headers. Same same. PIM bought the tooling from whoever was making them for Mind Train, I believe.
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>>> Just going mostly stock; I have these at the moment. See pictures. Which I can just reuse if need be.
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>>>> There is a terrific ad in some 1970s issues of PI showing the difference between the stock exhaust and Mind Train Big Throat exhaust. The difference is laughable.
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>>> Where can I get the GTS mufflers?
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>>>> ANSA Classic still makes and sells factory GTS mufflers. They are eye-wateringly expensive. As in, more than 3000 Euros, plus shipping from Europe.
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> Both Larry Stock and Steve Wilkinson have genuine ANSA GTS mufflers in stock. Similarly expensive. One is asking $2200 for a pair and the other wants over $3000.
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> Hall makes their own copies using ANSA mufflers, and locally made pipes. They are a bit less but availability is spotty.
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> You might want to consider Wilkinson’s reproduction GTS exhaust system, which is pretty great, flows much better, and is less expensive. They are painted stainless steel.
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> Mike
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>>>> On Apr 8, 2024, at 19:44, Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:
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>>> Larry,
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>>> That is TOTALLY untrue!
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>>> You’re describing Hall BIG BORE headers. Ed is asking about Mind Train/PIM BIG THROAT headers.
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>>> I think. That’s what he said anyway.
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>>> Big throat headers will not bolt up to standard ANSA mufflers, but will attach to GTS mufflers….
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>>> Mike
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>> On Apr 8, 2024, at 19:12, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
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>>>> Sorry Ed, You do not want Big Throat Headers
>>>> The collectors are a very restrictive 1-3/4", and most came without a heavy 1 piece head gasket plate so all the individual exhaust mount head plates are all warped to hell and typically need 8 hours with pry bars to line them up again after they have been used and stress relieved.
>>>> I have a pallet load of them to sell anonymously on e-bay, someday, maybe
>>>> Larry
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>>>> On 4/8/24, 3:29 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Edward Mendez via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
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>>>> Looking for the following:
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>>>> Set of big throat headers, and Ansa mufflers for my 72 with Cleveland.
>>>> L dash in decent shape.
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>>>> Thanks
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>>>> Ed
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