[DeTomaso] Fwd: Hammer Price Portfolio Report - Sunday, May 21, 2023

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Mon May 22 13:39:36 EDT 2023


No room under the supercharger.  It’s a twin screw Kenne Bell.  The Viper hood is too low for a cooler under the blower.  So, ice doesn’t help.

 

If I had a centrifugal, it would be no problem.

 

I’m not lamenting my blower choice.  I love the Kenne Bell.  It makes more power than good street tires can handle.

 

But you always want more – right?  The next step up with this blower is a 100 shot of nitrous – which might actually be 150hp due to the cooling effect.

 

Or E85 – which, I really don’t want to do.

 

From: Chave Garcia <egarcia5233 at gmail.com>
Date: Monday, May 22, 2023 at 12:47 PM
To: "will.kooiman at gmail.com" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Cc: Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>, Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>, Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>, De Tomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Hammer Price Portfolio Report - Sunday, May 21, 2023

 

Get an icebox in the trunk.

 

On Mon, May 22, 2023, 08:40 Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

I have a supercharger and no intercooler on my Viper.  It runs really hard at 11psi.  It's a blast on the track.

I've thought about running a 100HP nitrous kit, just to cool down the a/f, but I would only use it drag racing my brother (on a track).

E85 is the best ticket, but I don't want to mess with everything required for the switchover.

On 5/22/23, 10:33 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike & Elizabeth" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> wrote:


Nitros and a supercharger?! A bit of overkill.


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LaurieFerrari’s Pantera blower is set up the same way. It requires some hacking of the metalwork underneath the rear window, but after that it fits. 


Barely. 


Mike


Sent from my iPad


> On May 21, 2023, at 18:09, Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com <mailto:coreyjprice at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> A friend of mine here in Utah has a supercharger on his Pantera, similar to the blue one. The supercharger snout cuts the top tubular firewall channel and extends into the interior. If you notice, this car has a large upholstered piece where the snout is, indicating to me that it's similar. My friend has an upholstered piece there too, but formed to the snout better. I'll see if I can find my pictures of it. 
> 
> Corey
> 
>> On May 21, 2023, at 5:59 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>  I wonder how they drove the blower? No photos and not a lot of room
>> for belts.
>> 
>> On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 09:01:32 AM PDT, Mike Drew via DeTomaso 
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
>> All,
>> Somebody really hacked up a Pushbutton Pantera. The result is a very
>> juvenile car, which at a glance appears to be nicely done. But its
>> modest selling price probably didn't even cover the cost of the work
>> that was done to it....
>> [1]1971 DeTomaso Pantera at Indy 2023 as S58.1 - Mecum Auctions
>> [2]mecum.com
>> [3]apple-touch-icon.png
>> Selling price shown below....
>> Mike
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>> Subject: Hammer Price Portfolio Report - Sunday, May 21, 2023
>> Hammer Price : Auction Results In Real Time
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>> Pantera
>> 1.
>> 1971 DeTomaso Sold $92,000 USD
>> Pantera EST. PRICE $0-$0 USD
>> EXTERIOR Blue
>> Mecum
>> INTERIOR Black
>> Lot 58.1 Indianapolis
>> CHASSIS N-o THPNLD01341
>> May 20, 2023 11:39AM (EST)
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   No room under the supercharger.  It's a twin screw Kenne Bell.  The
   Viper hood is too low for a cooler under the blower.  So, ice doesn't
   help.


   If I had a centrifugal, it would be no problem.


   I'm not lamenting my blower choice.  I love the Kenne Bell.  It makes
   more power than good street tires can handle.


   But you always want more - right?  The next step up with this blower is
   a 100 shot of nitrous - which might actually be 150hp due to the
   cooling effect.


   Or E85 - which, I really don't want to do.


   From: Chave Garcia <egarcia5233 at gmail.com>
   Date: Monday, May 22, 2023 at 12:47 PM
   To: "will.kooiman at gmail.com" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   Cc: Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>, Mike Drew
   <mikeldrew at aol.com>, Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>, De Tomaso
   Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Ken Green
   <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Hammer Price Portfolio Report - Sunday,
   May 21, 2023


   Get an icebox in the trunk.


   On Mon, May 22, 2023, 08:40 Will Kooiman <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   wrote:

     I have a supercharger and no intercooler on my Viper.  It runs
     really hard at 11psi.  It's a blast on the track.
     I've thought about running a 100HP nitrous kit, just to cool down
     the a/f, but I would only use it drag racing my brother (on a
     track).
     E85 is the best ticket, but I don't want to mess with everything
     required for the switchover.
     On 5/22/23, 10:33 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike & Elizabeth"
     <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
     <mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
     [4]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:[5]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
     Nitros and a supercharger?! A bit of overkill.
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
     <mailto:[7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> On Behalf Of
     Mike Drew via DeTomaso
     Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2023 6:19 PM
     To: Corey Price <[8]coreyjprice at gmail.com
     <mailto:[9]coreyjprice at gmail.com>>
     Cc: De Tomaso Forum <[10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     <mailto:[11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>; Ken Green
     <[12]kenn_green at yahoo.com <mailto:[13]kenn_green at yahoo.com>>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Hammer Price Portfolio Report - Sunday,
     May 21, 2023
     LaurieFerrari's Pantera blower is set up the same way. It requires
     some hacking of the metalwork underneath the rear window, but after
     that it fits.
     Barely.
     Mike
     Sent from my iPad
     > On May 21, 2023, at 18:09, Corey Price <[14]coreyjprice at gmail.com
     <mailto:[15]coreyjprice at gmail.com>> wrote:
     >
     > A friend of mine here in Utah has a supercharger on his Pantera,
     similar to the blue one. The supercharger snout cuts the top tubular
     firewall channel and extends into the interior. If you notice, this
     car has a large upholstered piece where the snout is, indicating to
     me that it's similar. My friend has an upholstered piece there too,
     but formed to the snout better. I'll see if I can find my pictures
     of it.
     >
     > Corey
     >
     >> On May 21, 2023, at 5:59 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
     <[16]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     <mailto:[17]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
     >>
     >> I wonder how they drove the blower? No photos and not a lot of
     room
     >> for belts.
     >>
     >> On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 09:01:32 AM PDT, Mike Drew via
     DeTomaso
     >> <[18]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     <mailto:[19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
     >> All,
     >> Somebody really hacked up a Pushbutton Pantera. The result is a
     very
     >> juvenile car, which at a glance appears to be nicely done. But
     its
     >> modest selling price probably didn't even cover the cost of the
     work
     >> that was done to it....
     >> [1]1971 DeTomaso Pantera at Indy 2023 as S58.1 - Mecum Auctions
     >> [2][20]mecum.com
     >> [3]apple-touch-icon.png
     >> Selling price shown below....
     >> Mike
     >> Sent from my iPad
     >> Begin forwarded message:
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     >> Date: May 21, 2023 at 02:07:35 PDT
     >> To: [2][23]MIKELDREW at aol.com <mailto:[24]MIKELDREW at aol.com>
     >> Subject: Hammer Price Portfolio Report - Sunday, May 21, 2023
     >> Hammer Price : Auction Results In Real Time
     >> Portfolio Report Sunday, May 21, 2023
     >> Pantera
     >> 1.
     >> 1971 DeTomaso Sold $92,000 USD
     >> Pantera EST. PRICE $0-$0 USD
     >> EXTERIOR Blue
     >> Mecum
     >> INTERIOR Black
     >> Lot 58.1 Indianapolis
     >> CHASSIS N-o THPNLD01341
     >> May 20, 2023 11:39AM (EST)
     >> De Tomaso
     >> 1.
     >> 1971 DeTomaso Sold $92,000 USD
     >> Pantera EST. PRICE $0-$0 USD
     >> EXTERIOR Blue
     >> Mecum
     >> INTERIOR Black
     >> Lot 58.1 Indianapolis
     >> CHASSIS N-o THPNLD01341
     >> May 20, 2023 11:39AM (EST)
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