[DeTomaso] Dash Lights

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Sat May 20 19:38:17 EDT 2023


I have John's LED gauge lamps in my speedo and tach, they are the only ones that worked in conjunction with my VDO aftermarket gauges to provide an equal brightness. As they are a flat LED you can actually turn them in the bulb holder to adjust light into the gauge as well as use the dimmer, but my dimmer has very little adjustability now and is more an on/off.

Julian



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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2023 3:31 PM
To: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash Lights

   Steve,

   The lamps simply plug into sockets which are then pushed into the back
   of the gauges.

   I made a video for you:

   maxresdefault.jpg
   [1]How to change a De Tomaso Pantera instrument light bulb
   [2]youtu.be
   The tach and speedo use the same system. You just have to reach up
   behind the dash and pull the sockets out and install new bulbs. No need
   to disconnect the wires from the sockets as they are long enough to
   allow enough access to do the job.

   Cheers!

   Mike
   Sent from my iPad

     On May 20, 2023, at 15:18, Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
     wrote:

   Lol.....I am the idiot.  I don't know better.  One of my mechanics said
   he thought he had to remove the dash to change the lights....and I
   should live with what we have ...It seemed an odd statement at the
   time. And, being me, I threw it out there.
   Can someone point me to the replacement process?  Then, I will study it
   and go back to my guys and say..."look, this is how you do it."
   In all fairness, every time I do something mechanical at the racetrack
   they behind my back recheck it. They won't even let me torque wheels
   before sending me out to the track unless they recheck it. There must
   be some history there somewhere...
   Regards,
   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
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   On Sat, May 20, 2023, 2:59 PM Mike Drew <[4]mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:

     Steve,
     Why would you remove the dash to change a light bulb?
     Do you remove the roof to change a light bulb in your house? :)
     Mike
     Sent from my iPad
     > On May 20, 2023, at 14:07, Steve Lisa <[5]stevelisa at patentit.com>
     wrote:
     >
     >    So the dimmer will work with the Leds!A  That's good news.
     >   I take it the entire dash has to come out? Which bc of the goofy
     way
     >   the cage was done (by the guy in Oregon who we sent it to after
     Asa Jay
     >   gave it up), we would need to remove the cage.A A
     >   I have wanted to redesign it anyway....the cage builder didn't
     do as I
     >   asked and it's a pain for an old guy like me to get in and out.
     >   Thanks guys....appreciated.
     >   Regards,A
     >   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
     >   The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
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     >   On Sat, May 20, 2023, 1:21 PM Bill Moore
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     >   wrote:
     >
     >   Pantera Electronics,A  Jon Hass. LED plug and play, then use the
     dimmer
     >   switch......
     >   Cheers
     >   Bill MooreA
     >   403.860.4300
     >   Calgary / GoodyearA
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     >   From: DeTomaso <[3][8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
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     >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Dash Lights
     >   A
     >   All,
     >   We are looking to improve the dash/gauge lighting situation for
     the GR3
     >   Pantera.A  It is tough enough to read the gauges when racing,
     and the
     >   original panel lights were so dim, that I couldn't see anything
     during
     >   the
     >   night stints at the Daytona race.
     >   I am guessing many of you have dealt with this issue in the
     past, and
     >   have
     >   some easy and effective solutions.
     >   Thoughts?
     >   Regards,
     >   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
     >   *The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC*
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   I have John's LED gauge lamps in my speedo and tach, they are the only
   ones that worked in conjunction with my VDO aftermarket gauges to
   provide an equal brightness. As they are a flat LED you can actually
   turn them in the bulb holder to adjust light into the gauge as well as
   use the dimmer, but my dimmer has very little adjustability now and is
   more an on/off.

   Julian

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   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2023 3:31 PM
   To: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
   Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash Lights

      Steve,
      The lamps simply plug into sockets which are then pushed into the
   back
      of the gauges.
      I made a video for you:
      maxresdefault.jpg
      [1]How to change a De Tomaso Pantera instrument light bulb
      [2]youtu.be
      The tach and speedo use the same system. You just have to reach up
      behind the dash and pull the sockets out and install new bulbs. No
   need
      to disconnect the wires from the sockets as they are long enough to
      allow enough access to do the job.
      Cheers!
      Mike
      Sent from my iPad
        On May 20, 2023, at 15:18, Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
        wrote:
      Lol.....I am the idiot.  I don't know better.  One of my mechanics
   said
      he thought he had to remove the dash to change the lights....and I
      should live with what we have ...It seemed an odd statement at the
      time. And, being me, I threw it out there.
      Can someone point me to the replacement process?  Then, I will study
   it
      and go back to my guys and say..."look, this is how you do it."
      In all fairness, every time I do something mechanical at the
   racetrack
      they behind my back recheck it. They won't even let me torque wheels
      before sending me out to the track unless they recheck it. There
   must
      be some history there somewhere...
      Regards,
      Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
      The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
      Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
      Direct: 480-442-0297

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      On Sat, May 20, 2023, 2:59 PM Mike Drew <[4]mikeldrew at aol.com>
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        Steve,
        Why would you remove the dash to change a light bulb?
        Do you remove the roof to change a light bulb in your house? :)
        Mike
        Sent from my iPad
        > On May 20, 2023, at 14:07, Steve Lisa
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        wrote:
        >
        >    So the dimmer will work with the Leds!A  That's good news.
        >   I take it the entire dash has to come out? Which bc of the
   goofy
        way
        >   the cage was done (by the guy in Oregon who we sent it to
   after
        Asa Jay
        >   gave it up), we would need to remove the cage.A A
        >   I have wanted to redesign it anyway....the cage builder didn't
        do as I
        >   asked and it's a pain for an old guy like me to get in and
   out.
        >   Thanks guys....appreciated.
        >   Regards,A
        >   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
        >   The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
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        >   Pantera Electronics,A  Jon Hass. LED plug and play, then use
   the
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        >   Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2023 11:10:07 AM
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        >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Dash Lights
        >   A
        >   All,
        >   We are looking to improve the dash/gauge lighting situation
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        the GR3
        >   Pantera.A  It is tough enough to read the gauges when racing,
        and the
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        >   Thoughts?
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