[DeTomaso] Odd problem
MIKE DREW
mikeldrew at aol.com
Sat May 13 01:05:13 EDT 2023
Chris,
You already know what kind of thermostat you need to replace it:
[1]summitracing.com
[2][wFNi7tReOKIaAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==]
You will also need a new water neck gasket and these are vastly
superior to paper gaskets:
[3]summitracing.com
[4][wFNi7tReOKIaAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==]
Order both of these now so you are ready to fix your car when the PNW
guys come over, not just take it apart....
Mike
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On May 12, 2023, at 21:40, Christopher Kimball
<chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
That makes sense. A couple of guys from PNW are coming over a week
from tomorrow to help me remove the thermostat so I can determine
what
kind I need to get to replace it. We'll also look at why the
passenger
door no longer opens from the outside...
I just hate having to keep asking for help from everyone all the
time.
Thank you!
Sincerely,
Chris
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Odd problem
So, it may all be working as designed and we are trying to find a
solution to a problem that doesn't exist.....
What is your thermostat rating? If the thermostat is 185F, it sounds
like the gauge in the block is reading the correct temperature, then
once the thermostat opens it allows a rush of cooler coolant and the
gauges typically drop. If the second fan thermostatic switch is 185F
as
original the second fan might not come on as the coolant in the
radiator is being cooled and slightly colder.
Julian
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Odd problem
Ah, that's good information! The 1st fan turned on, the 2nd one
however didn't.
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From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
Date: 5/12/23 5:42 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: MIKE DREW <mikeldrew at aol.com>, Christopher Kimball
<ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
Cc: Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Odd problem
Chris,
The fan sensors are located in the radiator. If the T stat is stuck
closed the hot coolant is trapped in the engine and does not make it
to
the radiator and sensors, thus no fan.
Forest
On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 05:32:05 PM PDT, Christopher Kimball
<chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
I have heard stories such as that, and that's one of the reasons
why
I
added that 2nd gauge because the stock gauge goes to the swirl tank
which always seems silly to me for the very reasons you state!
The gauge going to the block was reading higher than it normally
does,
however. At normal times the block gauge never goes above 160 or
170.
This time it was above 185 and appeared to be climbing. Someone
said
a
stuck thermostat could be the problem, and that seems to be a good
idea, but it doesn't explain why my 2nd radiator fan didn't come
on.
What is the best way to check to see if a radiator fan is going
to
turn on when it should? Do I just let the car sit in the driveway
and
idle until the gauge gets really hot and if the fan hasn't turned
on
then I know the little sensor isn't working? Or is there a more
effective way? Thank you for your help.
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From: MIKE DREW <mikeldrew at aol.com<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>
Date: 5/12/23 5:22 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Christopher Kimball
<chrisvkimball at msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com>>
Cc: Pantera Owners Club of America
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist
.c
om>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Odd problem
Chris,
Is your primary sender still located in the pressure tank?
You say the secondary sender is on the block and that gauge was
reading
normal at all times. I would regard that one as Truth and the
fluctuating one as Rumor.
What's your water level like?
When I first got my Pantera I drove it down to Jack DeRyke's house.
On
the way I noticed the temp gauge rising alarmingly, but then it
came
down again. Then it went way down, and then the motor started
rattling
and steam came out, so I pulled over on the freeway.
Mike DeRyke came ti the rescue with a 5-gallon can of water. We
topped
it off, I drove a but further, topped it off again etc until I got
to
their house.
A hose clamp had come loose and one of the radiator hoses under the
car
had partially come off. It was a simple matter to put it back into
place and tighten it up and then refill the system. But it showed
me
the value of having the e gone temperature measured on the engine,
not
the bottle. As the fluid level dropped the car started overheating
which reflected on the gauge. As it further dropped, the tank
became
empty and themselves started reading ambient air temperature which
is
why the gauge fell. In the meantime the engine was cooking itself.
Lucky it started steaming and rattling before it just blew up
entirely!
Mike
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On May 12, 2023, at 14:53, Christopher Kimball
<chrisvkimball at msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com>> wrote:
Hi folks, a funny thing happened on the way to the Rotary
meeting.
My
car's heat gauge began to show hotter and hotter and was in the
red
pretty deep. The secondary gauge I have installed which comes from
the
block showed the temperature getting to about 185 or so. My first
fan
kicked on, but the 2nd fan never did. Normally it comes on
shortly
after the first one. I don't know if the gages were reading
incorrectly or what, but it seemed as though the gauges were
continuing
to climb.
On my way home the same thing happened until about half way home
when
all of a sudden both gauges dropped down to their normal range.
Any
ideas?
Thanks.
Sincerely,
Chris
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