[DeTomaso] Transaxle leaks, won't go into gear now

Doug Braun doug351c at gmail.com
Tue Jun 6 00:26:10 EDT 2023


Konrad,

You can measure your slave cylinder.
The stock slave has a 1" diameter bore.
My long throw slave has a 7/8" bore.

Doug Braun

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Konrad Szwab
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 7:45 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Transaxle leaks, won't go into gear now

There is the mention of a long throw slave clutch cylinder. I replaced both the master and slave while my car was in the shop for 6 years.
How could I tell which one I have and who carries the long throw one ?


On Mon, Jun 5, 2023, 6:24 AM bill gaino <gaino at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Small metalllic particles that are part of the clutch disc have rusted 
> to the pressure plate and locked them together. You may be able to 
> start the car in gear and BREAK the rust bond, by jerking it with 
> acceleration. This happend to me often  with a Corvette, and my 
> Pantera after I allowed by disc to get wet and dry for a week. When I 
> broke it loose in the pantera, it destroyed the disc.
>  Bill
>
> www.slickpaint.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Sent: Jun 4, 2023 4:42 PM
> To: Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com>, DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
> < detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Transaxle leaks, won't go into gear now
>
> You can also depress the clutch while someone watches the clutch slave 
> cylinder. If it doesn't move - there's your problem.
>
> You probably just have air in the line.
>
> If not that, then maybe a bad clutch master or slave.
>
> On 6/3/23, 9:12 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Konrad Szwab" on behalf of 
> kszwab at gmail.com > wrote:
>
>
> I will try that troubleshooting step.
> The funny thing is that it was shifting perfectly before sitting for 3 
> months
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023, 7:58 PM Mike Drew > wrote:
>
>
> Konrad,
> What you describe is a clutch hydraulics or adjustment issue. Could 
> just require adjustment if itas not properly adjusted, or it could be 
> that there is some air in the system and it needs to be bled.
> If your clutch hydraulics were working and you had NO oil in the 
> gearbox it would probably shift just fine, at least while stationary. 
> It would destroy the gearbox driving it that way (so
> donat!) but the point is, a minor gearbox leak shouldnat be causing 
> your described issues.
> What happens if you put it into reverse, then try to start the engine 
> with the clutch pedal fully depressed?A If the car wants to move, then 
> the clutch is dragging which further confirms the diagnosis.
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad
> > On Jun 3, 2023, at 17:24, Konrad Szwab >
> wrote:
> >
> > i>>?A A Soooo, it has been sitting for about 3 months now,
> dripping slowly from
> >A A the bottom of the transaxle.
> >A A Yesterday I was planning to take it to the mechanic and show
> it off to
> >A A my girlfriend in the process and, of course, an Elvis moment
> ensured
> >A A (the car is yellow, after all)
> >A A If the engine is on, it won't go into gear. Reverse grinds, so
> I won't
> >A A force it and 1st does not go into gear at all. With the engine
> off, it
> >A A goes into gears.
> >A A Felt like I wanted to shoot it, so to take my mind off of it,
> I had my
> >A A girlfriendA shift the gears while I was watching the clutchA
> slave
> >A A cylinder. Seems to move normally, but probably just not enough
> to
> >A A disengage completely.
> >A A It is NOT low on fluid in the reservoirs in the front (both
> brake and
> >A A clutch).
> >A A Nothing looks shifted or loose.
> >A A Clutch feels normal, not spongy.
> >A A Could it be so low in the transaxle that somehow that causes
> it ?
> >A A Links to pics below.
> >A A I guess Monday I will have it towed to the mechanic.
> >A A [1][3]https://imgur.com/LMHEkBt
> >A A [2][4]https://imgur.com/a/EgqFath A A 
> >[3][5]https://imgur.com/a/2Lped6R
> >
> > References
> >
> >A A 1. [6]https://imgur.com/LMHEkBt
> >A A 2. [7]https://imgur.com/a/EgqFath A A 3. 
> >[8]https://imgur.com/a/2Lped6R  
> >_______________________________________________



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