[DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches
marshallgsmith
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Thu Jul 13 18:31:01 EDT 2023
I've received Kirk's number.Thanks everyone!Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: marshallgsmith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> Date: 7/13/23 2:57 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Doug Braun <doug351c at gmail.com>, 'Larry Stock' <larrys at panteraparts.com>, 'Thomas Törnblom' <tipo874 at gmail.com> Cc: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, dnunn at telus.net, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches Hey all, another subject here.Can someone furnish me the phone number for Kirk Evans?Thanx!MarshallSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone-------- Original message --------From: Doug Braun <doug351c at gmail.com> Date: 7/13/23 11:10 AM (GMT-08:00) To: 'Larry Stock' <larrys at panteraparts.com>, 'Thomas Törnblom' <tipo874 at gmail.com> Cc: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, dnunn at telus.net, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches Also, Centerforce adds centrifugal weights to their clutches which provides additional high RPM clamping force to aid the diaphrapm spring. Since these stick out a little and are close to the bellhousing, this precludes us from being able to use their 11" version, hence the reason for using their 10-1/2". Doug BraunSoon to be Blue again 73L #5505-----Original Message-----From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Larry StockSent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:32 AMTo: Thomas Törnblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; dnunn at telus.net; detomaso at server.detomasolist.comSubject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on ClutchesBecause the 10-1/2" works with a standard throw slave cylinder, and you can actually have throw-out bearing free-play with the long throw slave.Obviously The original 11" long Ford unit will work too, but it has to be made to fit for the Pantera. Not a bad idea to replace the 36 pound cast iron Flywheel with a SFI Approved billet steel 24 pound flywheel reguardless.The bellhousing is just a bit cramped for space and ventilation.LarryOn 7/12/23, 9:59 PM, "Thomas Törnblom" <tipo874 at gmail.com <mailto:tipo874 at gmail.com>> wrote:I’m using the 11” Centerforce clutch for a 351C. Works great with a long throw slave cylinder.Can’t remember who recommended it.I’m not sure why they designed the Pantera specific 10.5” clutch when the standard 11” works, and doesn’t need a special flywheel.Thomas> 13 juli 2023 kl. 02:05 skrev Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>:> > All for a cost performance reference,> > This is the diaphragm replacement Mike has> 360850M Pressure Plate:11" Diaphragm: Ford W/ Long Pattern: 5/16" Bolts $382.00> > Here is what we normally stock;> This is the Stock Pantera replacement we typically sell> 05039J Clutch press. plate, MCL 11" type 2, long 3 finger 385.00> These are the available clutch disc's available classified by engine Horsepower output> 05040J Clutch disc, 11" MCL type 2 transaxle Organic O/O to 400 HP 210.00> 05040K Clutch disc, 11" MCL type 2 transaxle, Ceramic C/C to 500 HP 430.00> 05040L Clutch disc, 11" MCL type 2 transaxle, Duel Friction O/C To 450HP 330.00> > Our 10-1/2" and 11" Ford drilled and tapped SFI (27 pound vs 36 pound) Lightened Steel Flywheel> 05041L Flywheel &ring gear ass'y, Ext Bal Centerforce (27#lightened) $425.00> > 05039P Flywheel, 10.5"Press. Plate & Disc ass'y, C/F 1320.00> > 05039N 5 Clutch press. 11" Plate & Disk MCL RST to 800HP type 2 HD 1195.00> > Larry Stock> > Pantera Parts Connection LC > 550 Mallory Way > Carson City NV 89701 > www.PanteraParts.com > PH 775-283-4411 > Fax 775-283-4410 > Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627 > > On 7/12/23, 3:26 PM, "Mike Drew" <mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>> wrote:> > Jeff,> > The principal problem with the stock clutch is that you can’t buy another stock clutch—they haven’t been available from Ford for decades. So when your perfectly good stock clutch wears out, you have it turn to the aftermarket for a replacement. > > The stock clutch has a lot going for it, and is perfectly suited for moderately brisk street driving. It won’t survive long behind 550 horsepower though. That’s where the aftermarket steps in. > > The entry-level McLeod three-finger clutch with organic disc is nominally the same as the stock clutch and is all that the vast majority of oriole would ever need. More aggressive friction materials are needed if the car has a tin of power, and there are always trade offs. Carbon Kevlar discs can withstand much more power but are typically a bit grabby and not nearly as well-behaved as an organic disc for regular street driving. > > Supposedly, a diaphragm style pressure plate offers less pedal effort for a given amount of clamping force, or alternately, greater clamping force for a given amount of pedal pressure, depending on which one you get. Honestly I haven’t been able to tell a tremendous amount of difference. > > We put a diaphragm clutch in Lori’s car because it came to her with a stupid ‘racing’ clutch that took a thousand pounds of pedal effort to release—it was completely absurd. So that made a tremendous improvement of course. > > Awhile back I replaced my McLeod three-finger clutch with a McLeod diaphragm clutch. I can’t say I can notice much reduction in pedal effort, but the clutch chatters during gentle operation, and requires some moderately high-rpm clutch slipping to move smoothly at a walking pace . Lori’s clutch is far better behaved. (My aluminum flywheel also plays an adverse role here).> > Mike> > Sent from my iPad> >> On Jul 12, 2023, at 13:02, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com <mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com> <mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com <mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>> wrote:>> >> What makes the McLeod clutch that much better than the stock clutch?>> Soother to engage, less foot pressure to release, longer lasting, etc?>> Just curious, Iave always been satisfied with the stock clutch.A>> >> Jeff>> >> 6559>> >> On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 11:07 AM Larry Stock>> <[1]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>> wrote:>> >> Mike,>> Here what McLeod says about your clutch pressure plate.>> "Thatas an older unit of ours. 360850 is the part number.>> Brian Gwin>> Sales Director>> McLeod Racing">> i>>?On 7/11/23, 4:06 PM, "Mike & Elizabeth">> <[2]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> <mailto:[3]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> wrote:>> Thanks Larry. Mike, I'll have you and Doug take a look at my clutch>> disc this Saturday but I'm pretty sure it's in good shape.>> Mike>>>> -----Original Message----->> From: Larry Stock <[4]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>> <mailto:[5]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 3:49 PM>> To: Mike & Elizabeth <[6]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> <mailto:[7]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>; 'Mike Drew'>> <[8]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>> <mailto:[9]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>>>> Cc: [10]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> <mailto:[11]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>;>> [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> <mailto:[13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches>> As McLeod put it; "I think some people donat realize that some of>> our pressure plates are drilled with multiple patterns to fit>> different flywheels.">> i>>?On 7/11/23, 2:14 PM, "Mike & Elizabeth">> <[14]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> <mailto:[15]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>> <mailto:[16]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> <mailto:[17]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>> wrote:>> Nine, right, and I did have it fastened with just six.>> -----Original Message----->> From: Mike Drew <[18]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> <mailto:[19]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>> <mailto:[20]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> <mailto:[21]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:25 PM>> To: Mike & Elizabeth <[22]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> <mailto:[23]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>> <mailto:[24]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> <mailto:[25]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>>>> Cc: Larry Stock <[26]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>> <mailto:[27]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>>> <mailto:[28]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>> <mailto:[29]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>>>; [30]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[31]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>> <mailto:[32]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[33]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>>; [34]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> <mailto:[35]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>> <mailto:[36]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> <mailto:[37]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches>> Count the number of mounting holesa|..>> Mike>> Sent from my iPhone>>>> On Jul 11, 2023, at 12:40, Mike & Elizabeth>>> <[38]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> <mailto:[39]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>>> <mailto:[40]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>> <mailto:[41]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>> wrote:>>> >>> i>>?Here is a larger pic of the pressure plate showing the>> complete part. I didn't see any McLeod markings.>>> >>> -----Original Message----->>> From: DeTomaso <[42]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> <mailto:[43]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>>> <mailto:[44]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> <mailto:[45]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>>> On Behalf Of>>> Larry Stock>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:02 AM>>> To: Pantera Mike Drew <[46]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> <mailto:[47]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>> <mailto:[48]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> <mailto:[49]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>>>; [50]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[51]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>> <mailto:[52]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[53]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>>>>> Cc: [54]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> <mailto:[55]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>> <mailto:[56]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> <mailto:[57]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches>>> >>> Hi Guys,>>> This is the response direct from McLeod to me;>>> >>> Ask for a better picture of that pressure plate. Iam not 100% sure>> itas even ours.>>> >>> As far as a 9 bolt pressure plate, thatas false. I think some>> people donat realize that some of our pressure plates are drilled>> with multiple patterns to fit different flywheels. For example our>> 360850 11a pressure plate has both the 11a diaphragm and 11a long>> patterns in them. Thatas what Dennis buys all the time. Iam pretty>> sure that the pressure plate pictured is not a 360850 but canat tell>> by that cut off picture of it.>>> >>> Your open order for the Pantera Clutches should ship in the next>> 3-5 days.>>> Larry Stock>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> i>>?I'm expediting a current McLeod Stock order now for our>> regular stock 11" 3 finger and RST clutches we typically stock, and>> I asked about this 11" Diaphragm clutch as well, I'll see what they>> say and get back with you.>>> Larry>>> >>> >>> i>>?On 7/11/23, 10:07 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via>> DeTomaso" <[58]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> <mailto:[59]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>>> 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at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> <mailto:[85]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>>> <mailto:[86]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> <mailto:[87]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>> <mailto:[88]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> <mailto:[89]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>>>> wrote:>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> New production McLeod diaphragm Pantera pressure plates are>> different from before, and are actually made in Germany by a company>> called Luk. The current production uses nine bolts to secure them to>> the flywheel which is super weird. Dennis says to just use six of>> them (one of the center and one on the side) and leave the extra>> holes alone, although I suppose you could drill the flywheel to>> accept the extra three bolts.>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 11, 2023, at 10:00, David Nunn <[90]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[91]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>> <mailto:[92]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[93]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[94]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[95]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>> <mailto:[96]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[97]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>>> <mailto:[98]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[99]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>> <mailto:[100]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[101]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[102]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[103]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>> <mailto:[104]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[105]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>>>>> wrote:>>>> >>>> i>>? Mike,>>>> >>>> I think you'll find McLeod still makes your diaphragm pressure>> plate>>>> but they no longer list it in their catalog. Call Dennis or call>>>> McLeod and get the part #.>>>> >>>> Dave>>>> _______________________________________________>>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not>>>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list>>>> [106]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> <mailto:[107]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>> <mailto:[108]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> <mailto:[109]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>>>>> 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Marshall Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Doug Braun <doug351c at gmail.com> Date: 7/13/23 11:10 AM (GMT-08:00) To: 'Larry Stock' <larrys at panteraparts.com>, 'Thomas Toernblom' <tipo874 at gmail.com> Cc: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, dnunn at telus.net, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches Also, Centerforce adds centrifugal weights to their clutches which provides additional high RPM clamping force to aid the diaphrapm spring. Since these stick out a little and are close to the bellhousing, this precludes us from being able to use their 11" version, hence the reason for using their 10-1/2". Doug Braun Soon to be Blue again 73L #5505 -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Larry Stock Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:32 AM To: Thomas Toernblom <tipo874 at gmail.com> Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; dnunn at telus.net; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches Because the 10-1/2" works with a standard throw slave cylinder, and you can actually have throw-out bearing free-play with the long throw slave. Obviously The original 11" long Ford unit will work too, but it has to be made to fit for the Pantera. Not a bad idea to replace the 36 pound cast iron Flywheel with a SFI Approved billet steel 24 pound flywheel reguardless. The bellhousing is just a bit cramped for space and ventilation. Larry On 7/12/23, 9:59 PM, "Thomas Toernblom" <tipo874 at gmail.com <mailto:tipo874 at gmail.com>> wrote: I'm using the 11" Centerforce clutch for a 351C. Works great with a long throw slave cylinder. Can't remember who recommended it. I'm not sure why they designed the Pantera specific 10.5" clutch when the standard 11" works, and doesn't need a special flywheel. Thomas > 13 juli 2023 kl. 02:05 skrev Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>: > > All for a cost performance reference, > > This is the diaphragm replacement Mike has > 360850M Pressure Plate:11" Diaphragm: Ford W/ Long Pattern: 5/16" Bolts $382.00 > > Here is what we normally stock; > This is the Stock Pantera replacement we typically sell > 05039J Clutch press. plate, MCL 11" type 2, long 3 finger 385.00 > These are the available clutch disc's available classified by engine Horsepower output > 05040J Clutch disc, 11" MCL type 2 transaxle Organic O/O to 400 HP 210.00 > 05040K Clutch disc, 11" MCL type 2 transaxle, Ceramic C/C to 500 HP 430.00 > 05040L Clutch disc, 11" MCL type 2 transaxle, Duel Friction O/C To 450HP 330.00 > > Our 10-1/2" and 11" Ford drilled and tapped SFI (27 pound vs 36 pound) Lightened Steel Flywheel > 05041L Flywheel &ring gear ass'y, Ext Bal Centerforce (27#lightened) $425.00 > > 05039P Flywheel, 10.5"Press. Plate & Disc ass'y, C/F 1320.00 > > 05039N 5 Clutch press. 11" Plate & Disk MCL RST to 800HP type 2 HD 1195.00 > > Larry Stock > > Pantera Parts Connection LC > 550 Mallory Way > Carson City NV 89701 > www.PanteraParts.com > PH 775-283-4411 > Fax 775-283-4410 > Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627 > > On 7/12/23, 3:26 PM, "Mike Drew" <mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>> wrote: > > Jeff, > > The principal problem with the stock clutch is that you can't buy another stock clutch--they haven't been available from Ford for decades. So when your perfectly good stock clutch wears out, you have it turn to the aftermarket for a replacement. > > The stock clutch has a lot going for it, and is perfectly suited for moderately brisk street driving. It won't survive long behind 550 horsepower though. That's where the aftermarket steps in. > > The entry-level McLeod three-finger clutch with organic disc is nominally the same as the stock clutch and is all that the vast majority of oriole would ever need. More aggressive friction materials are needed if the car has a tin of power, and there are always trade offs. Carbon Kevlar discs can withstand much more power but are typically a bit grabby and not nearly as well-behaved as an organic disc for regular street driving. > > Supposedly, a diaphragm style pressure plate offers less pedal effort for a given amount of clamping force, or alternately, greater clamping force for a given amount of pedal pressure, depending on which one you get. Honestly I haven't been able to tell a tremendous amount of difference. > > We put a diaphragm clutch in Lori's car because it came to her with a stupid `racing' clutch that took a thousand pounds of pedal effort to release--it was completely absurd. So that made a tremendous improvement of course. > > Awhile back I replaced my McLeod three-finger clutch with a McLeod diaphragm clutch. I can't say I can notice much reduction in pedal effort, but the clutch chatters during gentle operation, and requires some moderately high-rpm clutch slipping to move smoothly at a walking pace . Lori's clutch is far better behaved. (My aluminum flywheel also plays an adverse role here). > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jul 12, 2023, at 13:02, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com <mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com> <mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com <mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>> wrote: >> >> What makes the McLeod clutch that much better than the stock clutch? >> Soother to engage, less foot pressure to release, longer lasting, etc? >> Just curious, Iave always been satisfied with the stock clutch.A >> >> Jeff >> >> 6559 >> >> On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 11:07 AM Larry Stock >> <[1]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>> wrote: >> >> Mike, >> Here what McLeod says about your clutch pressure plate. >> "Thatas an older unit of ours. 360850 is the part number. >> Brian Gwin >> Sales Director >> McLeod Racing" >> i>>?On 7/11/23, 4:06 PM, "Mike & Elizabeth" >> <[2]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> <mailto:[3]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> wrote: >> Thanks Larry. Mike, I'll have you and Doug take a look at my clutch >> disc this Saturday but I'm pretty sure it's in good shape. >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Larry Stock <[4]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>> >> <mailto:[5]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 3:49 PM >> To: Mike & Elizabeth <[6]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> >> <mailto:[7]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>; 'Mike Drew' >> <[8]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>> <mailto:[9]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> >> Cc: [10]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> <mailto:[11]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>; >> [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> >> <mailto:[13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches >> As McLeod put it; "I think some people donat realize that some of >> our pressure plates are drilled with multiple patterns to fit >> different flywheels." >> i>>?On 7/11/23, 2:14 PM, "Mike & Elizabeth" >> <[14]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> <mailto:[15]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>> >> <mailto:[16]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> >> <mailto:[17]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>> wrote: >> Nine, right, and I did have it fastened with just six. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mike Drew <[18]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>> >> <mailto:[19]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>> <mailto:[20]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>> >> <mailto:[21]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:25 PM >> To: Mike & Elizabeth <[22]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> >> <mailto:[23]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>> <mailto:[24]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> >> <mailto:[25]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>> >> Cc: Larry Stock <[26]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>> >> <mailto:[27]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>> >> <mailto:[28]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>> >> <mailto:[29]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>>>; [30]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> >> <mailto:[31]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>> <mailto:[32]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> >> <mailto:[33]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>>; [34]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> >> <mailto:[35]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>> >> <mailto:[36]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> >> <mailto:[37]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches >> Count the number of mounting holesa|.. >> Mike >> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Jul 11, 2023, at 12:40, Mike & Elizabeth >>> <[38]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> <mailto:[39]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>> >>> <mailto:[40]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> >>> <mailto:[41]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>> wrote: >>> >>> i>>?Here is a larger pic of the pressure plate showing the >> complete part. I didn't see any McLeod markings. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DeTomaso <[42]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> >> <mailto:[43]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>> >> <mailto:[44]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> >> <mailto:[45]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>>> On Behalf Of >>> Larry Stock >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:02 AM >>> To: Pantera Mike Drew <[46]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>> >> <mailto:[47]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>> <mailto:[48]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>> >> <mailto:[49]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>>>; [50]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> >> <mailto:[51]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>> <mailto:[52]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> >> <mailto:[53]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> >>> Cc: [54]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> >> <mailto:[55]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>> >> <mailto:[56]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> >> <mailto:[57]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches >>> >>> Hi Guys, >>> This is the response direct from McLeod to me; >>> >>> Ask for a better picture of that pressure plate. Iam not 100% sure >> itas even ours. >>> >>> As far as a 9 bolt pressure plate, thatas false. I think some >> people donat realize that some of our pressure plates are drilled >> with multiple patterns to fit different flywheels. For example our >> 360850 11a pressure plate has both the 11a diaphragm and 11a long >> patterns in them. Thatas what Dennis buys all the time. Iam pretty >> sure that the pressure plate pictured is not a 360850 but canat tell >> by that cut off picture of it. >>> >>> Your open order for the Pantera Clutches should ship in the next >> 3-5 days. >>> Larry Stock >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> i>>?I'm expediting a current McLeod Stock order now for our >> regular stock 11" 3 finger and RST clutches we typically stock, and >> I asked about this 11" Diaphragm clutch as well, I'll see what they >> say and get back with you. >>> Larry >>> >>> >>> i>>?On 7/11/23, 10:07 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via >> DeTomaso" <[58]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> >> <mailto:[59]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>> >> <mailto:[60]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> >> <mailto:[61]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> >> <mailto:[62]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> >> <mailto:[63]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>> >> <mailto:[64]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> >> <mailto:[65]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>>> >> <mailto:[66]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> >> <mailto:[67]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>> >> <mailto:[68]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> >> <mailto:[69]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> >> <mailto:[70]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> >> <mailto:[71]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>> >> <mailto:[72]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-boun
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I've received Kirk's number.
Thanks everyone!
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: marshallgsmith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
Date: 7/13/23 2:57 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Doug Braun <doug351c at gmail.com>, 'Larry Stock'
<larrys at panteraparts.com>, 'Thomas Toernblom' <tipo874 at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, dnunn at telus.net,
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches
Hey all, another subject here.Can someone furnish me the phone number
for Kirk Evans?Thanx!MarshallSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy
smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Doug Braun <doug351c at gmail.com>
Date: 7/13/23 11:10 AM (GMT-08:00) To: 'Larry Stock'
<larrys at panteraparts.com>, 'Thomas Toernblom' <tipo874 at gmail.com> Cc:
'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, dnunn at telus.net,
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current
Recommendations on Clutches Also, Centerforce adds centrifugal weights
to their clutches which provides additional high RPM clamping force to
aid the diaphrapm spring. Since these stick out a little and are close
to the bellhousing, this precludes us from being able to use their 11"
version, hence the reason for using their 10-1/2". Doug BraunSoon to
be Blue again 73L #5505-----Original Message-----From: DeTomaso On
Behalf Of Larry StockSent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:32 AMTo: Thomas
Toernblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>;
dnunn at telus.net; detomaso at server.detomasolist.comSubject: Re:
[DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on ClutchesBecause the 10-1/2" works
with a standard throw slave cylinder, and you can actually have
throw-out bearing free-play with the long throw slave.Obviously The
original 11" long Ford unit will work too, but it has to be made to fit
for the Pantera. Not a bad idea to replace the 36 pound cast iron
Flywheel with a SFI Approved billet steel 24 pound flywheel
reguardless.The bellhousing is just a bit cramped for space and
ventilation.LarryOn 7/12/23, 9:59 PM, "Thomas Toernblom"
<tipo874 at gmail.com <mailto:tipo874 at gmail.com>> wrote:I'm using the 11"
Centerforce clutch for a 351C. Works great with a long throw slave
cylinder.Can't remember who recommended it.I'm not sure why they
designed the Pantera specific 10.5" clutch when the standard 11" works,
and doesn't need a special flywheel.Thomas> 13 juli 2023 kl. 02:05
skrev Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>:> > All for a cost performance
reference,> > This is the diaphragm replacement Mike has> 360850M
Pressure Plate:11" Diaphragm: Ford W/ Long Pattern: 5/16" Bolts
$382.00> > Here is what we normally stock;> This is the Stock Pantera
replacement we typically sell> 05039J Clutch press. plate, MCL 11" type
2, long 3 finger 385.00> These are the available clutch disc's
available classified by engine Horsepower output> 05040J Clutch disc,
11" MCL type 2 transaxle Organic O/O to 400 HP 210.00> 05040K Clutch
disc, 11" MCL type 2 transaxle, Ceramic C/C to 500 HP 430.00> 05040L
Clutch disc, 11" MCL type 2 transaxle, Duel Friction O/C To 450HP
330.00> > Our 10-1/2" and 11" Ford drilled and tapped SFI (27 pound vs
36 pound) Lightened Steel Flywheel> 05041L Flywheel &ring gear ass'y,
Ext Bal Centerforce (27#lightened) $425.00> > 05039P Flywheel,
10.5"Press. Plate & Disc ass'y, C/F 1320.00> > 05039N 5 Clutch press.
11" Plate & Disk MCL RST to 800HP type 2 HD 1195.00> > Larry Stock> >
Pantera Parts Connection LC > 550 Mallory Way > Carson City NV 89701 >
www.PanteraParts.com > PH 775-283-4411 > Fax 775-283-4410 > Cell
1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627 > > On 7/12/23, 3:26 PM, "Mike Drew"
<mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>> wrote:> > Jeff,> > The principal problem
with the stock clutch is that you can't buy another stock clutch--they
haven't been available from Ford for decades. So when your perfectly
good stock clutch wears out, you have it turn to the aftermarket for a
replacement. > > The stock clutch has a lot going for it, and is
perfectly suited for moderately brisk street driving. It won't survive
long behind 550 horsepower though. That's where the aftermarket steps
in. > > The entry-level McLeod three-finger clutch with organic disc is
nominally the same as the stock clutch and is all that the vast
majority of oriole would ever need. More aggressive friction materials
are needed if the car has a tin of power, and there are always trade
offs. Carbon Kevlar discs can withstand much more power but are
typically a bit grabby and not nearly as well-behaved as an organic
disc for regular street driving. > > Supposedly, a diaphragm style
pressure plate offers less pedal effort for a given amount of clamping
force, or alternately, greater clamping force for a given amount of
pedal pressure, depending on which one you get. Honestly I haven't been
able to tell a tremendous amount of difference. > > We put a diaphragm
clutch in Lori's car because it came to her with a stupid `racing'
clutch that took a thousand pounds of pedal effort to release--it was
completely absurd. So that made a tremendous improvement of course. > >
Awhile back I replaced my McLeod three-finger clutch with a McLeod
diaphragm clutch. I can't say I can notice much reduction in pedal
effort, but the clutch chatters during gentle operation, and requires
some moderately high-rpm clutch slipping to move smoothly at a walking
pace . Lori's clutch is far better behaved. (My aluminum flywheel also
plays an adverse role here).> > Mike> > Sent from my iPad> >> On Jul
12, 2023, at 13:02, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com
<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com> <mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>> wrote:>> >> What makes the McLeod clutch
that much better than the stock clutch?>> Soother to engage, less foot
pressure to release, longer lasting, etc?>> Just curious, Iave always
been satisfied with the stock clutch.A>> >> Jeff>> >> 6559>> >> On Wed,
Jul 12, 2023 at 11:07 AM Larry Stock>> <[1]larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>> wrote:>> >> Mike,>> Here what McLeod
says about your clutch pressure plate.>> "Thatas an older unit of ours.
360850 is the part number.>> Brian Gwin>> Sales Director>> McLeod
Racing">> i>>?On 7/11/23, 4:06 PM, "Mike & Elizabeth">>
<[2]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>
<mailto:[3]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>
wrote:>> Thanks Larry. Mike, I'll have you and Doug take a look at my
clutch>> disc this Saturday but I'm pretty sure it's in good shape.>>
Mike>>>> -----Original Message----->> From: Larry Stock
<[4]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>>
<mailto:[5]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>>>>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 3:49 PM>> To: Mike & Elizabeth
<[6]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>
<mailto:[7]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>; 'Mike
Drew'>> <[8]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>
<mailto:[9]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>>>> Cc:
[10]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> <mailto:[11]dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>;>> [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>
<mailto:[13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]
Current Recommendations on Clutches>> As McLeod put it; "I think some
people donat realize that some of>> our pressure plates are drilled
with multiple patterns to fit>> different flywheels.">> i>>?On 7/11/23,
2:14 PM, "Mike & Elizabeth">> <[14]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> <mailto:[15]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>> <mailto:[16]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> <mailto:[17]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>> wrote:>> Nine, right, and I did have
it fastened with just six.>> -----Original Message----->> From: Mike
Drew <[18]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>>
<mailto:[19]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>
<mailto:[20]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>>
<mailto:[21]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>>>>> Sent:
Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:25 PM>> To: Mike & Elizabeth
<[22]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>
<mailto:[23]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>
<mailto:[24]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>
<mailto:[25]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>>>> Cc:
Larry Stock <[26]larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>> <mailto:[27]larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>>>
<mailto:[28]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>>
<mailto:[29]larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>>>;
[30]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[31]dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>> <mailto:[32]dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[33]dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>>; [34]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>
<mailto:[35]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>>
<mailto:[36]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>
<mailto:[37]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]
Current Recommendations on Clutches>> Count the number of mounting
holesa|..>> Mike>> Sent from my iPhone>>>> On Jul 11, 2023, at 12:40,
Mike & Elizabeth>>> <[38]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> <mailto:[39]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>>> <mailto:[40]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>> <mailto:[41]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>>> wrote:>>> >>> i>>?Here is a larger
pic of the pressure plate showing the>> complete part. I didn't see any
McLeod markings.>>> >>> -----Original Message----->>> From: DeTomaso
<[42]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>>
<mailto:[43]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>>>
<mailto:[44]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>>
<mailto:[45]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>>> On Behalf Of>>>
Larry Stock>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:02 AM>>> To: Pantera
Mike Drew <[46]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>>
<mailto:[47]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>
<mailto:[48]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>>
<mailto:[49]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>>>;
[50]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> <mailto:[51]dnunn at telus.net
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<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]
Current Recommendations on Clutches>>> >>> Hi Guys,>>> This is the
response direct from McLeod to me;>>> >>> Ask for a better picture of
that pressure plate. Iam not 100% sure>> itas even ours.>>> >>> As far
as a 9 bolt pressure plate, thatas false. I think some>> people donat
realize that some of our pressure plates are drilled>> with multiple
patterns to fit different flywheels. For example our>> 360850 11a
pressure plate has both the 11a diaphragm and 11a long>> patterns in
them. Thatas what Dennis buys all the time. Iam pretty>> sure that the
pressure plate pictured is not a 360850 but canat tell>> by that cut
off picture of it.>>> >>> Your open order for the Pantera Clutches
should ship in the next>> 3-5 days.>>> Larry Stock>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
i>>?I'm expediting a current McLeod Stock order now for our>> regular
stock 11" 3 finger and RST clutches we typically stock, and>> I asked
about this 11" Diaphragm clutch as well, I'll see what they>> say and
get back with you.>>> Larry>>> >>> >>> i>>?On 7/11/23, 10:07 AM,
"DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via>> DeTomaso"
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<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>>>> wrote:>>> >>> >>> >>>
>>> New production McLeod diaphragm Pantera pressure plates are>>
different from before, and are actually made in Germany by a company>>
called Luk. The current production uses nine bolts to secure them to>>
the flywheel which is super weird. Dennis says to just use six of>>
them (one of the center and one on the side) and leave the extra>>
holes alone, although I suppose you could drill the flywheel to>>
accept the extra three bolts.>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike>>> >>> >>> >>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 11, 2023, at 10:00,
David Nunn <[90]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>
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<mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>>>>> wrote:>>>> >>>>
i>>? Mike,>>>> >>>> I think you'll find McLeod still makes your
diaphragm pressure>> plate>>>> but they no longer list it in their
catalog. Call Dennis or call>>>> McLeod and get the part #.>>>> >>>>
Dave>>>> _______________________________________________>>>> >>>> >>>>
Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not>>>>
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>>>> mp;gt;>>>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To manage your
subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,>> etc.) use the links
above.>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license
to the list to forward>> any message posted here to all past, current,
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permission to maintain an>> archive or approve the archiving of list
messages.>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
_______________________________________________>>> >>> >>> Detomaso
Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not>>> exceed 1.5
Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list>>>
[170]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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mp;gt;>>>>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address,
unsubscribe,>> etc.) use the links above.>>> >>> Members who post to
this list grant license to the list to forward>> any message posted
here to all past, current, or future members of>> the list. They also
grant the list owner permission to maintain an>> archive or approve the
archiving of list messages.>>> <IMG_2217.jpg>>>>
_______________________________________________>>> >>> >>> Detomaso
Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not>>> exceed 1.5
Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list>>>
[178]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
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<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>>>>
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mp;gt;>>>>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address,
unsubscribe,>> etc.) use the links above.>>> >>> Members who post to
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here to all past, current, or future members of>> the list. They also
grant the list owner permission to maintain an>> archive or approve the
archiving of list messages.>>
_______________________________________________>> Detomaso Email List
is not managed by POCA>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes>>
DeTomaso mailing list>> [186]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>>
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<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>>> To
manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,>> etc.)
use the links above.>> Members who post to this list grant license to
the list to forward>> any message posted here to all past, current, or
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to maintain an>> archive or approve the archiving of list messages.>>
>> References>> >> 1. mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>> 2. mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 3. mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 4. mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>> 5. mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>> 6. mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 7. mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 8. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> 9. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> 10. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 11. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 12. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 13.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 14.
mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 15.
mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 16.
mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 17.
mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 18.
mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> 19.
mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> 20.
mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> 21.
mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> 22.
mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 23.
mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 24.
mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 25.
mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 26.
mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>> 27.
mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>> 28.
mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>> 29.
mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>> 30.
mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 31. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 32. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 33. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 34. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 35.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 36.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 37.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 38.
mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 39.
mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 40.
mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 41.
mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>> 42.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 43.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 44.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 45.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 46.
mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> 47.
mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> 48.
mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> 49.
mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>> 50.
mailto:dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 51. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 52. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 53. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 54. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 55.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 56.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 57.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 58.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 59.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 60.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 61.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 62.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 63.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 64.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 65.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 66.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 67.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 68.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 69.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 70.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 71.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 72.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 73.
mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 74.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 75.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 76.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 77.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 78.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 79.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 80.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 81.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 82.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 83.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 84.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 85.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 86.
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<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 87.
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<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 88.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 89.
mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 90. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 91. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 92. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 93. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 94. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 95. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 96. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 97. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 98. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 99. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 100. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 101. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 102. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 103. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 104. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 105. mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net> <mailto:dnunn at telus.net
<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>>> 106.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 107.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 108.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 109.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 110.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 111.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 112.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 113.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 114.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 115.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 116.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 117.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 118.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 119.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 120.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 121.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 122.
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>>> 123.
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>>> 124.
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>>> 125.
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<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso&gt>
;>>> 126. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>>> 127.
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;>>> 128. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>
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;>>> 129.
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>
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<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso&amp;g
t;&gt>>>> 130.
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>>> 131.
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
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;>>> 132. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>
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;>>> 133.
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>
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<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso&amp;g
t;&gt>>>> 134.
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>
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<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso&gt>
;>>> 135.
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso&gt;&a
mp;gt>
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<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso&amp;g
t;&gt>>>> 136.
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso&gt;&a
mp;gt>
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mp;gt>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso&amp;g
t;&gt>>>> 137.
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso&gt;&am
p;gt;>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso&amp;g
t;&gt;>>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso&amp;g
t;&gt;>>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso&amp;a
mp;gt;&amp;gt;&gt>>>> 138.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 139.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 140.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 141.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 142.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 143.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 144.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 145.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 146.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 147.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 148.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 149.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 150.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 151.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 152.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 153.
mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>>> 154.
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>>> 155.
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>>> 156.
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>
<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>>> 157.
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<http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>
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Hey all, another subject here.
Can someone furnish me the phone number for Kirk Evans?
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-------- Original message --------
From: Doug Braun <doug351c at gmail.com>
Date: 7/13/23 11:10 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: 'Larry Stock' <larrys at panteraparts.com>, 'Thomas Toernblom'
<tipo874 at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, dnunn at telus.net,
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches
Also,
Centerforce adds centrifugal weights to their clutches which
provides
additional high RPM clamping force to aid the diaphrapm spring.
Since these stick out a little and are close to the bellhousing,
this
precludes us from being able to use their 11" version, hence the
reason
for using their 10-1/2".
Doug Braun
Soon to be Blue again 73L #5505
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Larry Stock
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:32 AM
To: Thomas Toernblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>
Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; dnunn at telus.net;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches
Because the 10-1/2" works with a standard throw slave cylinder, and
you
can actually have throw-out bearing free-play with the long throw
slave.
Obviously The original 11" long Ford unit will work too, but it has
to
be made to fit for the Pantera.
Not a bad idea to replace the 36 pound cast iron Flywheel with a SFI
Approved billet steel 24 pound flywheel reguardless.
The bellhousing is just a bit cramped for space and ventilation.
Larry
On 7/12/23, 9:59 PM, "Thomas Toernblom" <tipo874 at gmail.com
<mailto:tipo874 at gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm using the 11" Centerforce clutch for a 351C. Works great with a
long throw slave cylinder.
Can't remember who recommended it.
I'm not sure why they designed the Pantera specific 10.5" clutch
when
the standard 11" works, and doesn't need a special flywheel.
Thomas
> 13 juli 2023 kl. 02:05 skrev Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>:
>
> All for a cost performance reference,
>
> This is the diaphragm replacement Mike has
> 360850M Pressure Plate:11" Diaphragm: Ford W/ Long Pattern: 5/16"
Bolts $382.00
>
> Here is what we normally stock;
> This is the Stock Pantera replacement we typically sell
> 05039J Clutch press. plate, MCL 11" type 2, long 3 finger 385.00
> These are the available clutch disc's available classified by
engine
Horsepower output
> 05040J Clutch disc, 11" MCL type 2 transaxle Organic O/O to 400 HP
210.00
> 05040K Clutch disc, 11" MCL type 2 transaxle, Ceramic C/C to 500
HP
430.00
> 05040L Clutch disc, 11" MCL type 2 transaxle, Duel Friction O/C To
450HP 330.00
>
> Our 10-1/2" and 11" Ford drilled and tapped SFI (27 pound vs 36
pound) Lightened Steel Flywheel
> 05041L Flywheel &ring gear ass'y, Ext Bal Centerforce
(27#lightened)
$425.00
>
> 05039P Flywheel, 10.5"Press. Plate & Disc ass'y, C/F 1320.00
>
> 05039N 5 Clutch press. 11" Plate & Disk MCL RST to 800HP type 2 HD
1195.00
>
> Larry Stock
>
> Pantera Parts Connection LC
> 550 Mallory Way
> Carson City NV 89701
> www.PanteraParts.com
> PH 775-283-4411
> Fax 775-283-4410
> Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627
>
> On 7/12/23, 3:26 PM, "Mike Drew" <mikeldrew at aol.com
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
<mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>> wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
> The principal problem with the stock clutch is that you can't buy
another stock clutch--they haven't been available from Ford for
decades. So when your perfectly good stock clutch wears out, you
have
it turn to the aftermarket for a replacement.
>
> The stock clutch has a lot going for it, and is perfectly suited
for
moderately brisk street driving. It won't survive long behind 550
&n
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