[DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches
Jeff Detrich
jjdetrich at gmail.com
Wed Jul 12 16:01:49 EDT 2023
What makes the McLeod clutch that much better than the stock clutch?
Soother to engage, less foot pressure to release, longer lasting, etc? Just
curious, I’ve always been satisfied with the stock clutch.
Jeff
6559
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 11:07 AM Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
wrote:
> Mike,
> Here what McLeod says about your clutch pressure plate.
> "That’s an older unit of ours. 360850 is the part number.
>
> Brian Gwin
> Sales Director
> McLeod Racing"
>
> On 7/11/23, 4:06 PM, "Mike & Elizabeth" <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:
> mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Larry. Mike, I'll have you and Doug take a look at my clutch disc
> this Saturday but I'm pretty sure it's in good shape.
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 3:49 PM
> To: Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>;
> 'Mike Drew' <mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>
> Cc: dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net>;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches
>
>
> As McLeod put it; "I think some people don’t realize that some of our
> pressure plates are drilled with multiple patterns to fit different
> flywheels."
>
>
> On 7/11/23, 2:14 PM, "Mike & Elizabeth" <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:
> mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:
> mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
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> Nine, right, and I did have it fastened with just six.
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com> <mailto:
> mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:25 PM
> To: Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>
> Cc: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>
> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>>;
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches
>
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> Count the number of mounting holes…..
>
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>
> Mike
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jul 11, 2023, at 12:40, Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> <mailto:mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:
> mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Here is a larger pic of the pressure plate showing the complete part. I
> didn't see any McLeod markings.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:
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> > Larry Stock
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:02 AM
> > To: Pantera Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>>; dnunn at telus.net
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> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> > This is the response direct from McLeod to me;
> >
> > Ask for a better picture of that pressure plate. I’m not 100% sure it’s
> even ours.
> >
> > As far as a 9 bolt pressure plate, that’s false. I think some people
> don’t realize that some of our pressure plates are drilled with multiple
> patterns to fit different flywheels. For example our 360850 11” pressure
> plate has both the 11” diaphragm and 11” long patterns in them. That’s what
> Dennis buys all the time. I’m pretty sure that the pressure plate pictured
> is not a 360850 but can’t tell by that cut off picture of it.
> >
> > Your open order for the Pantera Clutches should ship in the next 3-5
> days.
> > Larry Stock
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm expediting a current McLeod Stock order now for our regular stock
> 11" 3 finger and RST clutches we typically stock, and I asked about this
> 11" Diaphragm clutch as well, I'll see what they say and get back with you.
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On 7/11/23, 10:07 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso" <
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> > New production McLeod diaphragm Pantera pressure plates are different
> from before, and are actually made in Germany by a company called Luk. The
> current production uses nine bolts to secure them to the flywheel which is
> super weird. Dennis says to just use six of them (one of the center and one
> on the side) and leave the extra holes alone, although I suppose you could
> drill the flywheel to accept the extra three bolts.
> >
> >
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> >
> > Mike
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> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On Jul 11, 2023, at 10:00, David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net <mailto:
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> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike,
> >>
> >> I think you'll find McLeod still makes your diaphragm pressure plate
> >> but they no longer list it in their catalog. Call Dennis or call
> >> McLeod and get the part #.
> >>
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What makes the McLeod clutch that much better than the stock clutch?
Soother to engage, less foot pressure to release, longer lasting, etc?
Just curious, Iave always been satisfied with the stock clutch.A
Jeff
6559
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 11:07 AM Larry Stock
<[1]larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
Mike,
Here what McLeod says about your clutch pressure plate.
"Thatas an older unit of ours. 360850 is the part number.
Brian Gwin
Sales Director
McLeod Racing"
i>>?On 7/11/23, 4:06 PM, "Mike & Elizabeth"
<[2]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:[3]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Larry. Mike, I'll have you and Doug take a look at my clutch
disc this Saturday but I'm pretty sure it's in good shape.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Stock <[4]larrys at panteraparts.com
<mailto:[5]larrys at panteraparts.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 3:49 PM
To: Mike & Elizabeth <[6]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:[7]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>; 'Mike Drew'
<[8]mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:[9]mikeldrew at aol.com>>
Cc: [10]dnunn at telus.net <mailto:[11]dnunn at telus.net>;
[12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:[13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches
As McLeod put it; "I think some people donat realize that some of
our pressure plates are drilled with multiple patterns to fit
different flywheels."
i>>?On 7/11/23, 2:14 PM, "Mike & Elizabeth"
<[14]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:[15]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:[16]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
<mailto:[17]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
Nine, right, and I did have it fastened with just six.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:25 PM
To: Mike & Elizabeth <[22]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
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<mailto:[25]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>>>
Cc: Larry Stock <[26]larrys at panteraparts.com
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches
Count the number of mounting holesa|..
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 11, 2023, at 12:40, Mike & Elizabeth
<[38]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com <mailto:[39]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
<mailto:[40]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
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> i>>?Here is a larger pic of the pressure plate showing the
complete part. I didn't see any McLeod markings.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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<mailto:[45]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>> On Behalf Of
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:02 AM
> To: Pantera Mike Drew <[46]mikeldrew at aol.com
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Current Recommendations on Clutches
>
> Hi Guys,
> This is the response direct from McLeod to me;
>
> Ask for a better picture of that pressure plate. Iam not 100% sure
itas even ours.
>
> As far as a 9 bolt pressure plate, thatas false. I think some
people donat realize that some of our pressure plates are drilled
with multiple patterns to fit different flywheels. For example our
360850 11a pressure plate has both the 11a diaphragm and 11a long
patterns in them. Thatas what Dennis buys all the time. Iam pretty
sure that the pressure plate pictured is not a 360850 but canat tell
by that cut off picture of it.
>
> Your open order for the Pantera Clutches should ship in the next
3-5 days.
> Larry Stock
>
>
>
>
> i>>?I'm expediting a current McLeod Stock order now for our
regular stock 11" 3 finger and RST clutches we typically stock, and
I asked about this 11" Diaphragm clutch as well, I'll see what they
say and get back with you.
> Larry
>
>
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> New production McLeod diaphragm Pantera pressure plates are
different from before, and are actually made in Germany by a company
called Luk. The current production uses nine bolts to secure them to
the flywheel which is super weird. Dennis says to just use six of
them (one of the center and one on the side) and leave the extra
holes alone, although I suppose you could drill the flywheel to
accept the extra three bolts.
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>> I think you'll find McLeod still makes your diaphragm pressure
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>> but they no longer list it in their catalog. Call Dennis or call
>> McLeod and get the part #.
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