[DeTomaso] Disc Stuck?
Pantdino
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Mon Sep 5 21:03:44 EDT 2022
I have been using DOT 4 fluid for 30 yrs w/o a problem. In CA these days it seems everything is labeled DOT 3/4, so I'm having to switch to that.
Jim
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From: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
To: Pantera Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>; Trip Owen <lance730 at msn.com>
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Sent: Mon, Sep 5, 2022 5:38 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Disc Stuck?
Do not use DOT 4 in a DeTomaso Clutch System. The clutch seals are not DOT 4 compatible
Use DOT 3 fluids
Larry
On 9/5/22, 5:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Trip,
DOT3 or DOT3/4 fluid ONLY.
But adding fluid won’t fix the problem….
Mike
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> On Sep 5, 2022, at 17:09, Trip Owen <lance730 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you - sounds right, will examine tomorrow. What type of fluid
> does it take? I have no clue what it currently has.
>
> Trip
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Disc Stuck?
>
> If the pedal is soft and spongy it is probably not fully extending the
> slave cylinder.
> Do you see any fluid leakage anywhere?
> If not, the seal in clutch master cylinder could be leaking, so as you
> depress the pedal some fluid is leaking by the seal back into the
> reservoir and you're not getting full pressure and extension to the
> slave.
> You probably just have to rebuild the master cylinder with new seals.
> Jim
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> From: Thomas Toernblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>
> To: Trip Owen <lance730 at msn.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Sent: Mon, Sep 5, 2022 9:27 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Disc Stuck?
> I would start by fixing the soft and spongy pedal. Either bleed the
> circuit or replace the fluid if it is due.
> What fluid are you using? I've heard that DOT 5 (silicone) will attract
> air and cause a spongy pedal.
> What clutch?
> When I installed my first Centerforce clutch I had to push the pedal to
> the floor for it to disengage properly. I then installed a long throw
> slave cylinder and it fixed the issue.
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>> 5 sep. 2022 kl. 18:10 skrev Trip Owen <[2]lance730 at msn.com>:
>>
>> I am not sure what the problem, but my GT5S has been sitting a few
>> months, guilty as charged, and it has had some humidity, so I decide
>> its time for a ride, and the reverse, and first gear are now
> grinding
>> when I try to put it into gear. Never had this problem before, and
>> disc and clutch have very little miles on them. IF the first thing
> to
>> try is the disc is stuck, what do you suggest? Also pedal is soft
> and
>> spongy, if that is a word.
>>
>> Trip Owen
>>
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I have been using DOT 4 fluid for 30 yrs w/o a problem.
In CA these days it seems everything is labeled DOT 3/4, so I'm having
to switch to that.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
To: Pantera Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>; Trip Owen <lance730 at msn.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Mon, Sep 5, 2022 5:38 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Disc Stuck?
Do not use DOT 4 in a DeTomaso Clutch System. The clutch seals are not
DOT 4 compatible
Use DOT 3 fluids
Larry
i>>?On 9/5/22, 5:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of MICHAEL DREW via
DeTomaso" <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Trip,
DOT3 or DOT3/4 fluid ONLY.
But adding fluid wonat fix the problema|.
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 5, 2022, at 17:09, Trip Owen <[3]lance730 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> i>>? Thank you - sounds right, will examine tomorrow. What type
of fluid
> does it take? I have no clue what it currently has.
>
> Trip
>
>
> Sent from [1]Mail for Windows
>
>
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> From: Pantdino <[4]pantdino at aol.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 3:33:07 PM
> To: [5]tipo874 at gmail.com <[6]tipo874 at gmail.com>;
[7]lance730 at msn.com
> <[8]lance730 at msn.com>
> Cc: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Disc Stuck?
>
> If the pedal is soft and spongy it is probably not fully
extending the
> slave cylinder.
> Do you see any fluid leakage anywhere?
> If not, the seal in clutch master cylinder could be leaking, so
as you
> depress the pedal some fluid is leaking by the seal back into
the
> reservoir and you're not getting full pressure and extension to
the
> slave.
> You probably just have to rebuild the master cylinder with new
seals.
> Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Toernblom <[11]tipo874 at gmail.com>
> To: Trip Owen <[12]lance730 at msn.com>
> Cc: [13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Sent: Mon, Sep 5, 2022 9:27 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Disc Stuck?
> I would start by fixing the soft and spongy pedal. Either bleed
the
> circuit or replace the fluid if it is due.
> What fluid are you using? I've heard that DOT 5 (silicone) will
attract
> air and cause a spongy pedal.
> What clutch?
> When I installed my first Centerforce clutch I had to push the
pedal to
> the floor for it to disengage properly. I then installed a long
throw
> slave cylinder and it fixed the issue.
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>> 5 sep. 2022 kl. 18:10 skrev Trip Owen <[2][14]lance730 at msn.com>:
>>
>> I am not sure what the problem, but my GT5S has been sitting a
few
>> months, guilty as charged, and it has had some humidity, so I
decide
>> its time for a ride, and the reverse, and first gear are now
> grinding
>> when I try to put it into gear. Never had this problem before,
and
>> disc and clutch have very little miles on them. IF the first
thing
> to
>> try is the disc is stuck, what do you suggest? Also pedal is
soft
> and
>> spongy, if that is a word.
>>
>> Trip Owen
>>
>>
>> Sent from [1]Mail for Windows
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