[DeTomaso] Tesla Drivers???

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Sat Sep 3 19:56:08 EDT 2022


Although EV batteries are expensive, the invoice is for a first-generation Chevy Volt NiMH battery, it's an antique for which GM no longer supports or manufacturers the battery. If you are determined to keep an old obsolete antique on the road it can add up.....!

Some of the OEM's are developing swappable cells so there won't be a need to replace the whole unit for a defective cell. The average modern Li-ion battery has 3,500+ charge life, with a range of 400 miles, that's 1.4M miles or 93 years for the average driver of 15,000 miles annually.

Julian

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 3:30 PM
To: Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com>; Detomaso List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tesla Drivers???

You can buy a lot of gas for $27,000:




    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 01:57:05 PM PDT, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:

 I think Electric cars have their place in society just like Trucks and golf carts do.
Larry

On 9/2/22, 1:49 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Konrad Szwab" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:

      I think electric cars are the way of the future, for better or worse,
      due to governmental regulation. I hate my cars being demonized by these
      arrogant "holier than thou" hypocrites, personally, although at some
      point I do plan to get an electric car just to get used to it. I think
      as commuter cars for going to work they are great and that is about it.
      I still recall about a year ago the pissed off looks a Tesla driving
      dude was giving me when my now dead truck was idling nicely with the
      exhaust perfectly placed near his open window at a stoplight. The V8
      being a straight pipe the noise was an added factor for Konrad enjoying
      himself being a total ass :)

      On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 3:42 PM Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
      wrote:

        A  A Yes, I see that often now, there's a proliferation of Tesla's
        here in
        A  A Reno with the Gigafactory close by.
        A  A I drove my first Tesla about a month ago in Montreal, rental
        cars were
        A  A in high demand, and all they had available was a Tesla 3. Once
        I
        A  A figured out the card (key) swipe to make it work it was easy. I
        have to
        A  A say that rush and pinning to the seat as you press the go pedal
        hard is
        A  A exhilarating, but (and it's a big butt) everything else was
        just
        A  A boring, there is literally nothing else to get excited about,
        it has no
        A  A soul, it gets you from A to B in a utilitarian there's an 'app
        for
        A  A that' kind of way. On the interaction side I found it annoying
        more
        A  A than anything (in a kind of nagging wife way) and I ended up
        navigating
        A  A using my iPhone for a more direct route.
        A  A So, to answer your question, I think it's more of a case of the
        only
        A  A pleasure one can derive from driving a Tesla is the
        instantaneous
        A  A torque away from the lights, after that the battery efficiency
        warning
        A  A light comes on and one is chastised into fictitiously saving
        the planet
        A  A once more.
        A  A Julian
        A  A
        A __________________________________________________________________
        A  A From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
        behalf of
        A  A Corey Price <[3]coreyjprice at gmail.com>
        A  A Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 12:52 PM
        A  A To: Detomaso List <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
        A  A Subject: [DeTomaso] Tesla Drivers???
        A  A So reading about Konrad's unfortunate experience, he mentioned
        A  A something about Tesla drivers. I have had multiple Tesla
        drivers
        A  A wanting to race me since I got my Pantera on the street. The
        first one
        A  A was interesting and I let him go, not wanting to race on the
        street.
        A  A The next few got annoying and I wanted nothing to do with that.
        I'll
        A  A enjoy my car the way I want to, thank you. Anyone else
        experienced this
        A  A sudden desire of Tesla owners to race you?
        A  A Corey
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   Although EV batteries are expensive, the invoice is for a
   first-generation Chevy Volt NiMH battery, it's an antique for which GM
   no longer supports or manufacturers the battery. If you are determined
   to keep an old obsolete antique on the road it can add up.....!

   Some of the OEM's are developing swappable cells so there won't be a
   need to replace the whole unit for a defective cell. The average modern
   Li-ion battery has 3,500+ charge life, with a range of 400 miles,
   that's 1.4M miles or 93 years for the average driver of 15,000 miles
   annually.

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 3:30 PM
   To: Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com>; Detomaso List
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Larry Stock
   <larrys at panteraparts.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tesla Drivers???

   You can buy a lot of gas for $27,000:
       On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 01:57:05 PM PDT, Larry Stock
   <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:

    I think Electric cars have their place in society just like Trucks and
   golf carts do.
   Larry
   On 9/2/22, 1:49 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Konrad Szwab"
   <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
         I think electric cars are the way of the future, for better or
   worse,
         due to governmental regulation. I hate my cars being demonized by
   these
         arrogant "holier than thou" hypocrites, personally, although at
   some
         point I do plan to get an electric car just to get used to it. I
   think
         as commuter cars for going to work they are great and that is
   about it.
         I still recall about a year ago the pissed off looks a Tesla
   driving
         dude was giving me when my now dead truck was idling nicely with
   the
         exhaust perfectly placed near his open window at a stoplight. The
   V8
         being a straight pipe the noise was an added factor for Konrad
   enjoying
         himself being a total ass :)
         On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 3:42 PM Julian Kift
   <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
         wrote:
           A  A Yes, I see that often now, there's a proliferation of
   Tesla's
           here in
           A  A Reno with the Gigafactory close by.
           A  A I drove my first Tesla about a month ago in Montreal,
   rental
           cars were
           A  A in high demand, and all they had available was a Tesla 3.
   Once
           I
           A  A figured out the card (key) swipe to make it work it was
   easy. I
           have to
           A  A say that rush and pinning to the seat as you press the go
   pedal
           hard is
           A  A exhilarating, but (and it's a big butt) everything else
   was
           just
           A  A boring, there is literally nothing else to get excited
   about,
           it has no
           A  A soul, it gets you from A to B in a utilitarian there's an
   'app
           for
           A  A that' kind of way. On the interaction side I found it
   annoying
           more
           A  A than anything (in a kind of nagging wife way) and I ended
   up
           navigating
           A  A using my iPhone for a more direct route.
           A  A So, to answer your question, I think it's more of a case
   of the
           only
           A  A pleasure one can derive from driving a Tesla is the
           instantaneous
           A  A torque away from the lights, after that the battery
   efficiency
           warning
           A  A light comes on and one is chastised into fictitiously
   saving
           the planet
           A  A once more.
           A  A Julian
           A  A
           A
   __________________________________________________________________
           A  A From: DeTomaso
   <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
           behalf of
           A  A Corey Price <[3]coreyjprice at gmail.com>
           A  A Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 12:52 PM
           A  A To: Detomaso List <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
           A  A Subject: [DeTomaso] Tesla Drivers???
           A  A So reading about Konrad's unfortunate experience, he
   mentioned
           A  A something about Tesla drivers. I have had multiple Tesla
           drivers
           A  A wanting to race me since I got my Pantera on the street.
   The
           first one
           A  A was interesting and I let him go, not wanting to race on
   the
           street.
           A  A The next few got annoying and I wanted nothing to do with
   that.
           I'll
           A  A enjoy my car the way I want to, thank you. Anyone else
           experienced this
           A  A sudden desire of Tesla owners to race you?
           A  A Corey
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