[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 220, Issue 21

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Mon Oct 24 14:26:54 EDT 2022 

As for bushing removal, while I hope you have access to better tools/shop.   Here was my shade tree method
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 220, Issue 21

As for "ball joint separator". . . I borrowed a set from Advance Auto.   While the hardest part was figuring out whit one to use, I separated all in an hour and returned tools back to store.

Reading between the lines of others post, if you have the same as early panters, the press in, molded rubber... removing them is work.    I made a set of dies that allowed be to pull them ONCE I removed the flange.

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Trip, good to hear from you.

 

If you bushings are showing cracks it’s likely the rubber has dried out and begun to deteriorate.  If you are going that far, take a close look at you ball joints as well.  If the boots are in good shape and still pliable, they may still be good.  

 

To pop the ball joint out of the A-arm, supposedly you can whack the nub on the back of the upright casting with a heavy hammer to get the ball join lose.  Never worked for me.  My best luck has been with a ball joint separator.  I have one like this one from Home Depot  https://www.homedepot.com/p/GEARWRENCH-Universal-Ball-Joint-Separator-for-1-1-8-in-2-1-8-in-and-30mm-56mm-Joints-3916D/205594195?source=shoppingads <https://www.homedepot.com/p/GEARWRENCH-Universal-Ball-Joint-Separator-for-1-1-8-in-2-1-8-in-and-30mm-56mm-Joints-3916D/205594195?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&srsltid=AR5OiO0ub0F9m8V_xLHAYDBVS1T6hdP9PCLU7jOZSs7B_jTCiyZlcscXYaw> &locale=en-US&srsltid=AR5OiO0ub0F9m8V_xLHAYDBVS1T6hdP9PCLU7jOZSs7B_jTCiyZlcscXYaw.  Very effective and easy to use.  If you plan to reuse your existing ball joints, you have to be careful not to damage the rubber boot.

 

Once you have the ball joints separated and the A-arms removed, test your ball joints to see if they are still stiff when you try to rotate them by hand.  If they are and the boots are in good shape, now would be good time to take them to someone who can tap them for a zerk fitting (for a grease gun) to push some lube into them to extend their life.  This would be done on the side opposite the threaded end in the center of the dome.  If they ae loose and sloppy, they need to be replaced along with the bushings.  Give your tie rod ends the same test.

 

According to Mike Drew, the bushings for the 5-S are the same as earlier Panteras, but it would be a good idea to consider polyurethane bushings from one of our vendors.  If you want to stay with stock bushings and needs some, I have two full sets of 16 bushings.  I’d be happy to sell you one for a reasonable price.

 

Good luck, your results may vary . . .

Mike Thomas

 

 

From: Trip Owen <lance730 at msn.com> 
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Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 220, Issue 21

 

Mike – I am up to around 12,000 miles – the bushings on upper rear A arm bushings look shot, lots of cracks –

I just tried removing the upper ball joint to remove the A arm – forgetaboutit – that thing is really stuck on.

Holy smokes, I guess I have to heat it and beat the hell out of it…thanks for helping………

Trip 88’ GT5-S

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 220, Issue 21

 

Mike,

They are all the same. 

Trip—unless you have 100k miles there should be no need to change them?

Mike 

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> Trip, it would likely be helpful for folks to know that you're swapping
> bushings on a GT5-S (I assume that's the car you are working on).  Not sure
> but the bushings may be different.
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> Mike Thomas
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> Anyone have experience in getting rear Koni's rebuilt?  Where to go? Also
> best place to buy A arm bushings - I assume the A arms have to removed to
> press bushing in? right? Or can they be removed, and installed, one side at
> a time while shock and tire are off?
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> I've tried to remove the yellow plastic condenser fan from the motor but it
> seems stuck.  After removing the nut and washer, is it a press fit or is
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>   but it seems stuck.  After removing the nut and washer, is it a press
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