[DeTomaso] Anyone thinking of buying Marvic rims?
Julian Kift
julian_kift at hotmail.com
Sun Oct 16 17:05:50 EDT 2022
As weighed wheels in my garage.
10" 2 spoke Campagnolo 19lbs
10" 10 spoke Marvic repro Campi (GT4/GT5/GT5S) 14lbs
13" 10 spoke OEM Campagnolo (GT4/GT5/GT5S) 16.5lbs
14" 10 spoke Marvic repro Campi (GT4/GT5/GT5S) 17lbs
Julian
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From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 8:44 PM
To: Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
Cc: Doug Braun <doug351c at gmail.com>; Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone thinking of buying Marvic rims?
No, I'm afraid I didn't. The 13" original and 14" reproduction are both magnesium (Ronin makes an aluminum rim with the same design for a lot less money, if you are interested) but the 14" is obviously larger. I don't know how much extra they weigh. Certainly less than a 13" aluminum rim I'd think
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 9:07 AM Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>> wrote:
Charles, thanks for sending.
Did you happen to weigh your rear wheels by any chance?
> On Oct 12, 2022, at 23:17, charlesmccall at gmail.com<mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi - this is Julian's secretary 😊
>
> Their webpage is https://marvic.it/en/azienda/index.asp?lang=eng<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmarvic.it%2Fen%2Fazienda%2Findex.asp%3Flang%3Deng&data=05%7C01%7C%7C827bdd31ac754b32142508daaccd4d7d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638012295024286728%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=i%2F2iYURfOo74QaNG5i6y9nIWvxUDsn18uf2YcirC0%2Fw%3D&reserved=0>
>
> Here you can see their wheels for cars, including the Pantera:
> https://marvic.it/en/auto-vintage-2/<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmarvic.it%2Fen%2Fauto-vintage-2%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C827bdd31ac754b32142508daaccd4d7d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638012295024286728%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=hOEbSORj0UxJvVXiRQf5paO05cfYDXe6%2BDjODwvGBv8%3D&reserved=0>
>
> They were easy to deal with and the wheels are fantastic. The only other thing to note is that they sometimes make wheels in batches, so they don't always have them in stock. They may wait until they get X orders and then make a batch, so plan ahead.
>
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> Classification: Restricted
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> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 08:40
> To: 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone thinking of buying Marvic rims?
>
> Julian,
>
> What web address do you have for them? Do they make any of the stock type slotted Pantera wheels in larger than 15" diameter sizes?
>
> Doug Braun
> Blue 73 #5505
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 3:54 PM
> To: Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>>
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone thinking of buying Marvic rims?
>
> Yes, purchased direct, prices were EUR1,700 fronts and EUR2,000 rears in May 2022, with EUR650 shipping. Marvic was expecting to have to further increase prices at that time due to raw materials cost escalation. But all in, even with a price increase the second set was cheaper than the first Marvic set I purchased in 2021 and comparable to what some sellers are asking for 40-year-old wheels in the US! Why even take the risk with used when you can get new for about the same price!
>
> Julian
>
> ________________________________
> From: Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 3:37 PM
> To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> Cc: charlesmccall at gmail.com<mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com> <charlesmccall at gmail.com<mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com>>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone thinking of buying Marvic rims?
>
> Julian, trust me, I have been having a bloody shopping spree on Ebay UK.
>
> Did you purchase directly through Marvic?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Oct 12, 2022, at 13:48, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Correct, Marvic wheels only reproduce the 14" width, I have purchased a couple sets from them, fantastic quality and great people to deal with. Now is definitely the right time to purchase a set with the US$ so high against the Euro.
>
> Charlie McCall recently purchased new rears from Marvic, and they were on his car in the Le Mans Classic photo you commented on earlier!
>
> Julian
>
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Lashdeep Singh via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 10:31 AM
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone thinking of buying Marvic rims?
>
> Does anyone have a set of these reproduced Grp 4 wheels?
>
> I would like to know what they look like on a car as I believe they are 14” wide vs 13” for the originals.
>
> Thanks,
> LS
>
>> On Oct 26, 2021, at 05:51, charlesmccall at gmail.com<mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Having just spoken to them, the price will go up with the new year.
>>
>>
>> Set of 4 Group 4 wheels is still EUR6600, plus shipping, but if you are
>> thinking about buying some, you might want to do it in the next 2
>> months...
>>
>>
>> Back to your regularly scheduled program...
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As weighed wheels in my garage.
10" 2 spoke Campagnolo 19lbs
10" 10 spoke Marvic repro Campi (GT4/GT5/GT5S) 14lbs
13" 10 spoke OEM Campagnolo (GT4/GT5/GT5S) 16.5lbs
14" 10 spoke Marvic repro Campi (GT4/GT5/GT5S) 17lbs
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 8:44 PM
To: Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
Cc: Doug Braun <doug351c at gmail.com>; Julian Kift
<julian_kift at hotmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone thinking of buying Marvic rims?
No, I'm afraid I didn't. The 13" original and 14" reproduction are both
magnesium (Ronin makes an aluminum rim with the same design for a lot
less money, if you are interested) but the 14" is obviously larger. I
don't know how much extra they weigh. Certainly less than a 13"
aluminum rim I'd think
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 9:07 AM Lashdeep Singh <[1]lashdeep at yahoo.com>
wrote:
Charles, thanks for sending.
Did you happen to weigh your rear wheels by any chance?
> On Oct 12, 2022, at 23:17, [2]charlesmccall at gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi - this is Julian's secretary
>
> Their webpage is
[3]https://marvic.it/en/azienda/index.asp?lang=eng
>
> Here you can see their wheels for cars, including the Pantera:
> [4]https://marvic.it/en/auto-vintage-2/
>
> They were easy to deal with and the wheels are fantastic. The only
other thing to note is that they sometimes make wheels in batches,
so they don't always have them in stock. They may wait until they
get X orders and then make a batch, so plan ahead.
>
>
> Classification: Restricted
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso <[5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
Behalf Of Doug Braun
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 08:40
> To: 'Julian Kift' <[6]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone thinking of buying Marvic rims?
>
> Julian,
>
> What web address do you have for them? Do they make any of the
stock type slotted Pantera wheels in larger than 15" diameter sizes?
>
> Doug Braun
> Blue 73 #5505
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 3:54 PM
> To: Lashdeep Singh <[8]lashdeep at yahoo.com>
> Cc: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone thinking of buying Marvic rims?
>
> Yes, purchased direct, prices were EUR1,700 fronts and EUR2,000
rears in May 2022, with EUR650 shipping. Marvic was expecting to
have to further increase prices at that time due to raw materials
cost escalation. But all in, even with a price increase the second
set was cheaper than the first Marvic set I purchased in 2021 and
comparable to what some sellers are asking for 40-year-old wheels in
the US! Why even take the risk with used when you can get new for
about the same price!
>
> Julian
>
> ________________________________
> From: Lashdeep Singh <[10]lashdeep at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 3:37 PM
> To: Julian Kift <[11]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: [12]charlesmccall at gmail.com <[13]charlesmccall at gmail.com>;
[14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone thinking of buying Marvic rims?
>
> Julian, trust me, I have been having a bloody shopping spree on
Ebay UK.
>
> Did you purchase directly through Marvic?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Oct 12, 2022, at 13:48, Julian Kift
<[16]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Correct, Marvic wheels only reproduce the 14" width, I have
purchased a couple sets from them, fantastic quality and great
people to deal with. Now is definitely the right time to purchase a
set with the US$ so high against the Euro.
>
> Charlie McCall recently purchased new rears from Marvic, and they
were on his car in the Le Mans Classic photo you commented on
earlier!
>
> Julian
>
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <[17]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of Lashdeep Singh via DeTomaso
<[18]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 10:31 AM
> To: [19]charlesmccall at gmail.com <[20]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> Cc: [21]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[22]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone thinking of buying Marvic rims?
>
> Does anyone have a set of these reproduced Grp 4 wheels?
>
> I would like to know what they look like on a car as I believe
they are 14" wide vs 13" for the originals.
>
> Thanks,
> LS
>
>> On Oct 26, 2021, at 05:51, [23]charlesmccall at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Having just spoken to them, the price will go up with the new
year.
>>
>>
>> Set of 4 Group 4 wheels is still EUR6600, plus shipping, but if
you are
>> thinking about buying some, you might want to do it in the next
2
>> months...
>>
>>
>> Back to your regularly scheduled program...
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